> But I don't understand how restoring under VM and then IPLing MVS in 
another LPAR or on another nearby CEC is any faster than restoring in the 
LPAR and then IPLing the restored system in an LPAR.  They are serial 
activities.

"They are serial activities."  True in an LPAR.  But VM offers this unique 
thingy you may have heard of called a Virtual Machine.
If one is at a DR site and logs on multiple of these Virtual Machine 
thingies, each one *could* start a separate S/A DFDSS restore process.
If a master Virtual Machine thingy logged on and started CMS, in theory 
(and in practice for us years ago using VMBSAR) that master VM could 
AUTOLOG other restore-only Virtual Machine thingies with a passed 
parameter to define which disk should be restored, and the autologged 
Virtual Machine thingy could link back to the master's disk (and SCIF to 
it) to perform  any special setup, IPL the S/A DFDSS and the master 
Virtual Machine thingy could drive the commands through SCIF.  It's akin 
to another thingy called multitasking.  You might have heard of 
multitasking and these Virtual Machine thingies, but are just having a 
senior (or Friday) moment.  ;-)

And yes, DDR could back up the guest and perform the restore.   But I am 
not familiar enough with DFDSS to know if it can reliably backup a 
**running** z/OS system (I suspect not) such that the image can be 
reliably restored.  Open databases and other such apps usually make this a 
career-threatening technique.

Mike Walter 
Hewitt Associates 
Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily 
represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates.




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On Friday, 03/09/2007 at 09:14 CST, Brian Ferguson 
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> They have dumped the MVS volumes to tape using DFDSS.
> 
> And are attempting to use a standalone version of DFDSS to place the
> volumes onto DASD attached to the VM image.

DFDSS is a z/OS utility and z/OS is not licensed to run on IFLs.  As 
you've discovered, there is a reason we don't license z/OS to IFLs: it 
won't run.  If you plan to restore an MVS system from VM, use DDR to back 
it up.  DDR is designed to run on any type of CPU.

I can only speculate that standalone DFDSS detected a higher level of 
hardware and wandered into the Void and was Lost, being sent to the 
equivalent of Software Hell.  To find out whether this is true and/or 
intentional, you'd have to open a PMR (start with DFDSS).

But I don't understand how restoring under VM and then IPLing MVS in 
another LPAR or on another nearby CEC is any faster than restoring in the 
LPAR and then IPLing the restored system in an LPAR.  They are serial 
activities.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott



 
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