> But I don't understand how restoring under VM and then IPLing MVS in another LPAR or on another nearby CEC is any faster than restoring in the LPAR and then IPLing the restored system in an LPAR. They are serial activities.
"They are serial activities." True in an LPAR. But VM offers this unique thingy you may have heard of called a Virtual Machine. If one is at a DR site and logs on multiple of these Virtual Machine thingies, each one *could* start a separate S/A DFDSS restore process. If a master Virtual Machine thingy logged on and started CMS, in theory (and in practice for us years ago using VMBSAR) that master VM could AUTOLOG other restore-only Virtual Machine thingies with a passed parameter to define which disk should be restored, and the autologged Virtual Machine thingy could link back to the master's disk (and SCIF to it) to perform any special setup, IPL the S/A DFDSS and the master Virtual Machine thingy could drive the commands through SCIF. It's akin to another thingy called multitasking. You might have heard of multitasking and these Virtual Machine thingies, but are just having a senior (or Friday) moment. ;-) And yes, DDR could back up the guest and perform the restore. But I am not familiar enough with DFDSS to know if it can reliably backup a **running** z/OS system (I suspect not) such that the image can be reliably restored. Open databases and other such apps usually make this a career-threatening technique. Mike Walter Hewitt Associates Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates. "Alan Altmark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System" <IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU> 03/09/2007 01:03 PM Please respond to "The IBM z/VM Operating System" <IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU> To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: DFDSS and an IFL On Friday, 03/09/2007 at 09:14 CST, Brian Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > They have dumped the MVS volumes to tape using DFDSS. > > And are attempting to use a standalone version of DFDSS to place the > volumes onto DASD attached to the VM image. DFDSS is a z/OS utility and z/OS is not licensed to run on IFLs. As you've discovered, there is a reason we don't license z/OS to IFLs: it won't run. If you plan to restore an MVS system from VM, use DDR to back it up. DDR is designed to run on any type of CPU. I can only speculate that standalone DFDSS detected a higher level of hardware and wandered into the Void and was Lost, being sent to the equivalent of Software Hell. To find out whether this is true and/or intentional, you'd have to open a PMR (start with DFDSS). But I don't understand how restoring under VM and then IPLing MVS in another LPAR or on another nearby CEC is any faster than restoring in the LPAR and then IPLing the restored system in an LPAR. They are serial activities. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited.