While I thought having the SFS SVM itself XC, you are saying general CMS
users should be XC too?

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XC mode is for those users that need to access SFS files from
dataspaces. XC mode lets DAT off users reach out to a dataspace, which
is actually a virtual storage system. SFSes that exploit dataspaces are
for dircontrol directories. David

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Are you saying that a user who uses SFS should have their machine set to

XC?  For example, we set up a lot of users to use SFS as their A disk;
IPL 
CMS from VMSYSU, stuff like that.
Thanks,
Steve G.




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 . . . .  Make sure your end-users run with MACHINE XC, so their CMS can

directly read the files from the dataspace, (without the need for data 
transfer from the SFS server over APPC).  Non-XC users can still benefit

from the dataspace, but will need some extra help from CP to have the
file 
data copied from the dataspace into their primary address space.  I
would 
think that a "dataspaced" directory can outperform the classic 
19E-minidisk: the Y disk profits of shared FSTs; a dataspace directory
has 
shared FSTs and shared data. 

My customer stores its application programs in an SFS dataspace and we
use 
the DLOR to cleanup.  It works perfectly weel, except for SAS: SAS used 
parameters on the CSL calls to instruct SFS not to update the DOLR.  We 
had SAS create a fix for this (and some SFS backups needed to be
restored 
...) 

Beware too for "special tools": my customer uses my LOOK tool to scan 
files for strings.  Without precautions such tools will set all  DOLRs
to 
the date someone searched...   My LOOK has since been updated to avoid 
that (no, I don't think it is on VM's download lib, but I can send it). 
Similar, a simple BROWSE when one is curious will update the DOLR.  So,
we 
have a PIEK EXEC that avoids this (in Dutch "piek" is pronounced exactly

like the English "peek"). 

As James writes: SFS will not hide fm0 files.  Furthermore I would not
be 
surprised if an "ACCESS dirid Y/S * * Y2" would make that no dataspace
is 
used (the SFS server constructs a dataspace to be shared by all
end-users, 
and this form of ACCESS would ask for a filtered access).  Q SPACES 
PERMITTED following the ACCESS can tell you. 

-- 
Kris Buelens,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support
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