On Wednesday, 05/21/2008 at 12:45 EDT, Dave Jones 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A client has just installed a z10 system, with the STP server and NTP 
client
> support enabled. In one LPAR there is z/OS 1.9 running and exploiting an
> external time reference to keep it's LPAR time accurate.

With STP, you don't need an NTP client running in z/OS.  z/OS will see the 
"temporal displacement" alerts generated by STP.  The time shifts 
generated by STP are triggered by the NTP or other external time reference 
support.

> With the new z/10
> STP and NTP client functions available, can the time in the z/VM LPAR 
also
> be kept in sync with the time in the z/OS LPAR? If so, could this also 
be
> used to keep Linux guests' time in sync as well?

z/VM (CP) does not support STP and does not virtualize it.  The fact that 
STP is getting its time via NTP doesn't matter.

When the LPAR is activated, the "current" time will be given to the LPAR 
and the drift begins, with CP and all guests drifting together.  But 
that's not as bad as it might seem.  It has been true for some time that 
small changes in time due to normal clock drift have been dealt with by 
adjustments to the LPAR TOD clock with no STP or Sysplex Timer support 
required, making the TOD appear to advance at a slower or faster rate, as 
required to allow the TOD to "drift" back into sync again.  This is called 
"TOD steering".  Only when the operator sets the time or when the NTP/ETR 
connection to the external time reference has been disconnected for a 
significant period of time (days/weeks) does the clock drifted 
sufficiently to require STP/Sysplex Timer support in the operating system.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

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