No, that's not too far off from the fact. I just thought that is was
some sort of batch report that people usually run after hours to see
what happened during the day. 

Thanks for the info. I need to review VMRM and see if it will do the
trick. I don't think my client is interested in spending any additional
money on the mainframe for anything but will keep ESAMON in mind.

Thanks,

Mike  

-----Original Message-----
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Barton Robinson
Sent: January 28, 2009 11:52 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Need ideas for checking current terminal response time

ESAMON will let you know that minute.  It analyzes the data every 
minute, alerts are set to check values every minute. So if that is after

the fact, then yes....

Horlick, Michael wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Right now most users are still connected as SNA devices. We are slowly
> moving to TCP/IP.  
> 
> I assume that z/VM and ESAMON will let me know after the fact that
there
> was slow interactive response during some interval(s) of time during
the
> day. 
> 
> I would like something that would be more immediate (and of course,
free
> ;))
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mike
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu]
On
> Behalf Of Barton Robinson
> Sent: January 28, 2009 11:31 AM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: Need ideas for checking current terminal response time
> 
> TCPIP in z/VM has metrics that can be used to show network response 
> time.  z/VM provides transaction data. As a performance monitor that 
> analyzes both, ESAMON will cost you less than 1% of a cpu.  Could 
> probably do what you want with just zMON at $1200/month.
> 
> Horlick, Michael wrote:
>> Greetings,
>>
>>  
>>
>> Here is the situation.
>>
>>  
>>
>> We are running z/VM 5.2 and 5 z/VSE 4.1.0 guest systems (3
production,
> 2 
>> development machines) on an IBM 2066 (z800). In 2 of these VSEs there
> is 
>> a heavy duty CICS/TS system running.
>>
>>  
>>
>> We use SET SHARE ABS to give them a minimum target of CPU, no limits,

>> but sometimes I have to play around and give a hard limit to some
VSEs
> 
>> when the system is slow and the CMS users (the programmers) call me 
>> complaining of response time. Sometimes it's because within a
> production 
>> VSE virtual machine a batch job (or two or three) would be running.

>>
>>  
>>
>> Anyways, I was thinking of somehow capturing what a CMS user response

>> time would be every so often and perform some action (an alert or use

>> the SET SHARE command) when the response is slow.
>>
>>  
>>
>> I'm toying with creating a REXX EXEC which uses RXLDEV to create a 
>> logical 3270 session and have the EXEC basically "press" the ENTER
key
> 
>> say every 30 seconds.  
>>
>> I'm hoping this will mimic what a real interactive CMS user is 
>> experiencing. Take the time before and the time after with a 'CP Q
> TIME' 
>> and see how long it took.
>>
>>  
>>
>> The question is how accurate would this be to the real thing 
>> (interactive CMS user doing "trivial" commands like XEDIT,etc...)?  
>>
>>  
>>
>> I do have CA-EXPLORE VM but I'm thinking that would be maybe more 
>> overhead in running and I am not sure that finding out the machine is

>> running above, say 98% necessarily equates to a slow CMS response
> time.  
>>  
>>
>> Would like your opinion, suggestions, etc...
>>
>>  
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>  
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>>   
>>
>>  
>>
>>         
>>
> 
> 

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