This application puts about 10,000 files a day on its minidisk.  The
application owner wants to keep a month's worth of data online.  Given
64 bytes per file and 14M usable, that is approximately 230,000 files.
That would be exactly a full working month.

I am trying to convince the application owner to archive more frequently
or go to a weekly basis as it is approaching an architectural limit. 

By the way, there is noting wrong with either minidisk.  They just
contain a large amount of small files.

-----Original Message-----
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Schuh, Richard
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 9:22 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: How Many Files Can Be on a Minidisk Before It Cannot be
ACCESSed?

If there were nothing else below the 16M line except for FST, the
maximum is 262144. Start with that number and subtract 64 for every page
< 16M that is otherwise occupied. This is obviously less than the 279711
files on your 2 disks. Is it possible for you to limit what gets put in
the FST by accessing by mode number (acc 999 x/x * * x2)? Another
possibility would be to put the files in SFS and use them without
accessing the directories, or by using subdirectories to limit the
number of files accessed.

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
> [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of James Stracka (DHL US)
> Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 8:59 AM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: How Many Files Can Be on a Minidisk Before It 
> Cannot be ACCESSed?
> 
> It is a CMS architecture limit.  Do not make me go to IBMIN.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
> [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Imler, Steven J
> Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 8:44 AM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: How Many Files Can Be on a Minidisk Before It 
> Cannot be ACCESSed?
> 
> Are you sure the minidisk is not corrupted?  Do you have a 
> backup product that might help to tell you that it is?
> 
> 
> JR (Steven) Imler
> CA
> Senior Sustaining Engineer
> Tel: +1-703-708-3479
> steven.im...@ca.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu]
> On
> > Behalf Of James Stracka (DHL US)
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 11:36 AM
> > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> > Subject: How Many Files Can Be on a Minidisk Before It Cannot be
> ACCESSed?
> > 
> > We have a minidisk with 152715 files on it and another with 126996 
> > files.  Since the FAT is below the line, we cannot access both of
> these
> > minidisks concurrently.
> >     DMSACP109S Virtual storage capacity exceeded
> > 
> > Given that the "S" and "Y" disks as well as CMS take storage below
> 16M,
> > does anybody have an idea of approximately how many files 
> will go on a 
> > minidisk (I suppose an SFS directory will have the same concern)
> before
> > it cannot be accessed?
> 

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