I'd say yes if I were an auditor.  Encrypted PW requirements are usually 
something you find on your company's security policy, an ESM is a necessity on 
VM.


Marcy

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Of RPN01
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 1:53 PM
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Subject: Re: [IBMVM] Oops and finding passwords on a system...

Yes, I discovered this shortly after asking. I was able to do this from
OPERATOR, and then use DEFINE MDISK to get access to the disk and see the
USER BACKUP file to get the passwords I needed.

The evil question that comes to mind now is, could an auditor site you
because the operators effectively have access to all the passwords on the
system via roughly four commands? Is this considered a security hole (though
one that proved very useful today...)
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On 5/12/09 2:55 PM, "Marcy Cortes" <marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com> wrote:

> Oops.
> Make that
>
> Q MDISK USER DIRMAINT 1DB LOC
>
>
> Marcy
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> If he is logged on,
>
> Q MDISK USER DIRMAINT LOC
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>
>
>
> Marcy

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