<PLUG2>
We had about 7 servers in each of up to 18 VM systems to manage, all based
on RxServer, and obviously we were able to do it all from one location.
</PLUG2>

2009/9/16 Les Koehler <vmr...@tampabay.rr.com>

> Iirc, Pipes provides the facilities to negate the problem, but I don't
> remember the details.
>
> <PLUG>
> Interested parties might want to investigate/try my VMSERVE PACKAGE from
> the VM Download Library. It's a little old now, but when I retired it was
> widely used within IBM, saving lots of folks a lot of effort in setting up
> and running service machines.
>
> My responsibilities in Global Services required me to monitor, at one time,
> about 15 service machines across four systems connected via RSCS. All the
> monitoring was automated and I was only notified of unexpected or missing
> events.
>
> I could even  schedule changes remotely, have them installed on the fly,
> notify interested parties of their success or failure  and automatically
> back them off if they failed to install.
> <EPLUG>
>
> Les
>
> Chip Davis wrote:
>
>> I'm sorry to rise to the bait, but the nearly universal misunderstanding
>> of the MAKEBUF command is one of my sore spots.
>>
>> <PEDANT>
>> There is absolutely nothing about MAKEBUF that provides any sort of
>> separation of the records in the program stack.  Successive reads from the
>> stack will completely ignore any MAKEBUF point and happily continue to read
>> records until the stack is empty, with no indication that a MAKEBUF point
>> was passed.
>>
>> To ensure that no more records are read from the program stack than were
>> placed there after a MAKEBUF, it is necessary to do a Rexx Queued() or
>> SENTRIES command at the MAKEBUF point to determine how many records are
>> already on the stack, and then remove no more than were added after the
>> MAKEBUF.  This essentially renders the MAKEBUF/DROPBUF superfluous.
>>
>> The ONLY thing that MAKEBUF does is to reset the FIFO pointer to equal the
>> LIFO pointer.  This is quite handy because it allows one to place a group of
>> records on the top of the stack in FIFO order. Without MAKEBUF, this
>> operation would require reading all the records off the stack, stacking the
>> new records FIFO, then restacking FIFO the original records.
>>
>> The closest that MAKEBUF comes to a "separate what you place in the stack
>> from what is already there" operation, is that if all of the records that
>> were added to the program stack after a MAKEBUF command are not removed, the
>> remaining records can be deleted with the appropriate DROPBUF.
>> </PEDANT>
>>
>> If at some point, CMS is given the benefit of multiple program stacks (as
>> in the TSO/REXX environment) you could truly "separate what you place in the
>> stack from what is already there" by placing the new records in a new stack.
>>  At that point, MAKEBUF and DROPBUF will become vestigial.  TSO/REXX's
>> NEWSTACK/DELSTACK commands and the ability to create "a stack of stacks" is
>> what everyone seems to think MAKEBUF/DROPBUF provides.
>>
>> -Chip-
>>
>> On 9/15/09 15:49 Kris Buelens said:
>>
>>> Yes, DROPBUF 0 would be even better, a MAKEBUF is not required in such a
>>> server I'd say: you'd use it to separate what you place in the stack from
>>> what is there already, but as you code DROPBUF 0, there is surely nothing
>>> anymore to separate your stuff from.
>>>
>>
>>
>>


-- 
Kris Buelens,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support

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