Mike,
Yes, you have to download the (big honkin') files to a PC, unzip there, and
upload to VM. In my case, I upload to Linux and copy from there to VM. Thus
Chip's comment about using three operating systems to install one. There's
probably a way to use a Linux guest to download from IBM and unzip. I haven't
tried it, because the files are downloaded from a web page, not an FTP site,
and I'm not sure how to do that on Linux. I imagine that I'd either need to
set up a GUI on a guest and control it from my desktop, or use some kind of
command-line tool that can download a file from a URL.
I vaguely recall a PKZIP for VM product. If you had such a thing, you might be
able to unzip the files on VM.
Dennis
"See, I'm a man of simple tastes. I like dynamite, and gunpowder... And
gasoline! Do you know what all of these things have in common? They're cheap!"
-- Heath Ledger as The Joker, in The Dark Knight
-----Original Message-----
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf
Of Mike Walter
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 15:13
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: [IBMVM] z/VM 6.1 Install
Dennis,
That solves the FTP multiple file to an MDISK problem.
But how does on UNZIP a ZIPed file on VM? Was there a step in the
instructions that explains that? Mea culpa: I have not looked.
Or do we have to download the (probably big honkin') files to a PC, unzip
them there, and then transfer them back to z/VM? <sigh>
I hope not!
Mike Walter
Hewitt Associates
The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's.
"O'Brien, Dennis L" <dennis.l.o'br...@bankofamerica.com>
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02/02/2010 03:21 PM
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Re: z/VM 6.1 Install
Richard,
MPUT accepts wildcards.
Please let us know how using the VM FTP server works out. I tried it with
z/VM 5.1.0, and it wasn't very happy with the lack of file types on the
input files. I don't recall the exact details, but things could certainly
have changed since then.
Dennis O'Brien
"See, I'm a man of simple tastes. I like dynamite, and gunpowder... And
gasoline! Do you know what all of these things have in common? They're
cheap!" -- Heath Ledger as The Joker, in The Dark Knight
-----Original Message-----
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of Schuh, Richard
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 09:34
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: [IBMVM] z/VM 6.1 Install
And to make matters worse, the only local FTP server I can use is the one
on VM. That makes uploading hundreds or thousands of files a real pain. If
only the distribution had an option of some VM-friendly format in addition
to the DVD.
Is that APARable, Alan?
A non-VM question for the list. Since the WinXP Help for FTP is less than
forthcoming, is it possible to use wildcards in PUT or MPUT from XP
(client) to VM(server)?
Regards,
Richard Schuh
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
> [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Chip Davis
> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 8:38 PM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: z/VM 6.1 Install
>
> As someone whose first VM install was BSEPP, if that is the
> _simpler_ process, it makes me think IBM should hire some
> Microsofties to design a new system install mechanism. (Their
> OS may not _work_ when you get done, but the install is a
> relative breeze.)
>
> Seriously, the "easy" way takes three different operating
> systems to upgrade one of them? I think I see Richard's
> problem: he was only using two ... :-/
>
> -Chip-
>
> On 2/2/10 00:57 O'Brien, Dennis L said:
> > Richard,
> >
> > I think the TERSnnnn files are the RSU. My order download link has
> > expired, so I can't go back and check. The install files
> are in ZIP
> > format. I have four ZIP files:
> >
> >
> >
> > cd813250.zip contains the system image DVD install files
> for CKD DASD.
> >
> > CD813260.ZIP contains the system image DVD install files
> for FBA DASD.
> > I probably won't use this one, but I grabbed it just in
> case we build
> > an all-SAN system.
> >
> > CD813270.ZIP contains the system image DVD RSU install
> files for both
> > CKD and FBA DASD.
> >
> > K5T70543.ZIP contains the documentation, in both
> BookManager and PDF format.
> >
> >
> >
> > I haven't installed z/VM 6.1.0, yet, but I went through the same
> > process with z/VM 5.4.0. I unzipped the install and RSU files, and
> > put all the CKD files in a directory on my PC. I then used
> Samba to
> > upload the files to a Linux guest. The nice thing about
> Samba is that
> > I can use Windows cut-and-paste to copy the files. If the transfer
> > gets interrupted, it's easy to pick up where I left off. I
> work from
> > home, so the upload takes about 16 hours. I didn't have any
> > interruptions with 5.4.0, but I have had them when
> uploading earlier
> > releases. Once I have the files on Linux, I either install
> from the
> > Linux FTP server, or use FTP to copy the files to a CMS
> minidisk. For
> > either approach, I follow the instructions in the manual.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> > Dennis
> >
> >
> >
> > "See, I'm a man of simple tastes. I like dynamite, and gunpowder...
> > And gasoline! Do you know what all of these things have in common?
> > They're cheap!" -- Heath Ledger as The Joker, in The Dark Knight
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System
> [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu]
> > *On Behalf Of *Schuh, Richard
> > *Sent:* Monday, February 01, 2010 16:39
> > *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> > *Subject:* [IBMVM] z/VM 6.1 Install
> >
> >
> >
> > I feel like a fish out of water. I ordered z/VM 6.1 to be delivered
> > electronically, which may have been a mistake.
> >
> >
> >
> > * I have downloaded to the PC, and uploaded to a VM
> disk, the
> > files pointed to by the notification letter. These were files that
> > have TERSnnnn file types. The recfm/blksize are F/1024.
> >
> > * I DETERSEd the ones identified as the System DDR.
> These files
> > are V/4095.
> >
> >
> >
> > Now what? I find conflicting instructions. Depending on
> where I look, I
> > see (1) no DETERSE step, which cannot be right for these
> files, with
> > instructions that say that the files must be fixed/1028, which fits
> > neither the before nor after DETERSE lrecl, or (2) the
> DETERSE step is
> > included followed by a reference to a non-existent manual.
> >
> >
> >
> > I see no reason to DETERSE the other files until I have, as Paul
> > Harvey used to say, "the rest of the story." That will only give me
> > more files that I will probably have to erase when I must
> try some different
> > download.
> >
> >
> >
> > I opened an ETR after running around in circles until I was
> dizzy on
> > the support web site pointed to by the notification letter.
> I have no
> > idea when I will get a response. The list is usually
> faster. Please Help!!!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Richard Schuh
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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