Thanks Alan, Yes you are correct we just need the floor system long enough to restore our environment. Of course wouldn't try running normally without ESM just wanted to point out that it is possible although not recommended if you want to get anything done agreed.
Thanks! Thank You, Terry Martin Lockheed Martin - Citic z/OS and z/VM Performance Tuning and Operating Systems Support Office - 443 348-2102 Cell - 443 632-4191 -----Original Message----- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 6:46 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DFDSS Restore ADMIN PARM On Tuesday, 03/30/2010 at 04:57 EDT, "Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)" <terry.mar...@cms.hhs.gov> wrote: > Thanks Alan. BTW, the floor system at our Hot Site does not have RACF > nor for that matter any other ESM. You can in fact run z/OS without an > ESM. You can run MVS and some of the subsystems, yes. But you cannot, as you discovered, run "z/OS" and all that implies. Utilities that require specific authorization won't work since they all talk to the ESM via SAF calls (aka RACROUTE & Friends). With no ESM, those calls come back as "defer" and it is then up to the app to decide what to do. Unless it has an alternative source of authorization (99.9999% don't), the app has no choice but to fail. TSO works as it will, upon a defer from the call to the ESM, interrogate SYS1.UADS, as it does if the ESM is there but doesn't, in RACF terms, have a TSO segment defined for the user. Even JES2/JES3 require an ESM to process USERID=,PASSWORD= on the JOB card. (If you SUBMIT from TSO without them, they run under your TSO id without needing an ESM call.) One of my z/OS Brothers-in-Weaselhood told me ages ago, and confirmed again today, that *z/OS* was not designed to run without an ESM. Without one, you have just enough of a system up so that you can get one installed and then go about your daily chores. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
