> because we do not have HLASM. I'm sure that your IBM will be happy to remedy that situation! $-)
And there's always the Dignus "Systems/ASM" product. See-- http://www.dignus.com/dasm/ That product is definitely "Ready for Prime Time". Big-time companies use it. I believe that Jim Vincent supports the very technically and assembler- demanding 'TRACK' public domain utility using the Dignus "Systems/ASM" - good stuff. One of these days we may even order it! :-) Mike Walter Aon Corporation The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. "George Henke/NYLIC" <george_he...@newyorklife.com> Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System" <IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU> 11/12/2010 06:49 PM Please respond to "The IBM z/VM Operating System" <IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU> To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: APARs and PTFs for the z196 ty, Mike. I believe HLASM is also used for IOCP/IODF processing. Though such processing rarely happens now in the z/VM world, that may change in the future. And from some recent posts on the matter, it appears to already be happening. There seems to be a trend away from dependence on z/OS HCD processing for this functionality. So HLASM may indeed become a real practical reason, in the not too distant future, for having HLASM in z/VM, not for modifying source code per se, but for assembling IOCP source into production IODFs which can then be loaded statically and/or dynamically into the IOCDS. It kinda concerns me now where I am, even though we have no immediate plans to do any IOCP/IODF processing in z/VM, that we could not do so even if we wanted to, because we do not have HLASM. It is somewhat limiting. "Don't fence me in . . ." Mike Walter <mike.wal...@hewitt.com> Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System <IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU> 11/12/2010 07:30 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System <IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU> To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: APARs and PTFs for the z196 Disclaimer: I do not speak for IBM, this is only my understanding of these repeatedly discussed issues on this listserve. The IBM High Level Assembler is a separately orderable, and chargeable Licensed Program Product (meaning: it's not free, you must pay for it). Since it is NOT required, it is not shipped with z/VM. I'm guessing that IBM chooses to not ship it because Linux on System z customers are concerned about installing Linux guests and getting z/VM up and running, not messing with CP modifications. This way you don't pay for what you don't need. If you do not modify CP and some other parts of z/VM (and perhaps some other products such as VM/RACF?) you do not require HLASM to install, maintain, and run z/VM. All "parts" part of z/VM (e.g. most source code, but not all source code, TEXT decks, MODULE, etc. are shipped when z/VM is distributed. All parts serviced by IBM are shipped as part of the service stream (except for the licensed, and free "Restricted Source"; orderable through Resource Link - see the "Program Directory for z/VM", chapter 2.3 "Optional Machine-Readable Material"). You don't need that either, unless you suffer from insomnia or are a died-in-the-blue bits and bytes techie. DIRMAINT, Performance Toolkit, VM/RACF, and (NJE parts of) RSCS are chargeable products which ARE shipped with z/VM. As I understand it, they are shipped with z/VM because many new Linux on System z customers will need a directory manager product, a performance monitor product, and perhaps a printing and inter-system communications product. If they are familiar with z/OS (a reasonable), they may already be quite familiar with RACF, and may not have experience evaluating competitive ISV products for those needs. Shipping potentially useful products saves new z/VM customers from having to order them as the need "suddenly" arises. But the customers are expected to read the doc, finding that use of those products requires a separate action to ENABLE them, and somewhere that they are chargeable - even though they arrived for free with z/VM. For years I've been asking IBM to provide very prominent and clear warnings in the manual describing the command to enable those products, and in the SYSTEM CONFIG file itself where a simple change enables a product one that one should rightly be paying for. Oh well... Mike Walter Aon Corporation The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. "George Henke/NYLIC" <george_he...@newyorklife.com> Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System" <IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU> 11/12/2010 05:46 PM Please respond to "The IBM z/VM Operating System" <IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU> To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: APARs and PTFs for the z196 Thank you, Clovis, I was wondering why? I do not know that and it did not leave me with a "warm and fuzzy" feeling. But thank you for letting me know. Now I will be able to sleep at night. gclo...@br.ibm.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System <IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU> 11/12/2010 06:40 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System <IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU> To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: APARs and PTFs for the z196 Sorry, George. My mistake. HLASM isn't imbedded into z/VM. If needed, must be acquired separately. ______________________________________________ Clovis From: George Henke/NYLIC <george_he...@newyorklife.com> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 12/11/2010 18:30 Subject: Re: APARs and PTFs for the z196 Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System <IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU> ty, Clovis, but PK97799 is not an EREP APAR. VM64807 (#3 below) is the Non-SES EREP APAR to which I believe you refer. I was able to apply VM64807 following the instructions in the EREP PGMDIR which were quite good. PK97799 (#1 below), however, is an HLASM SES APAR which I have been told did not go on because I probably do not have HLASM on z/VM. This screen shot from: http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=1209&dc=DB540&q1=z196&uid=isg1_2817DEVICE_2817-ZVM shows the details: 12 10/09/22 VM64881 UM33183 1000 VM COUPLING FACILITY HANG AT IP 11 10/09/08 VM64879 UM33171 1000 Z196 PROCESSOR SUPPORT D/T2817 10 10/09/08 VM64774 UM33167 1000 SET/QUERY REORDER COMMAND ( D/T2 9 10/09/07 VM64820 UM33157 1000 NEW FUNCTION IN PERFORMANCE TOOL 8 10/09/02 VM64656 UM32881 1000 NEW FUNCTION - D/T2817 7 10/09/02 VM64793 UM33092 1000 NEW FUNCTION - D/T2817 6. 10/08/31 VM64672 UM90236 1000 NEW FUNCTION - SUPPORT IS 5. 10/08/31 VM64747 UM90237 1000 NEW FUNCTION - HCM SUPPORTS 4 10/08/31 VM64798 UM33151 1000 Z196 PROCESSOR SUPPORT D/T2817 3 10/08/25 VM64807 UV61111 1000 NEW FUNCTION - SUPPORT NEW CPU M 2 10/08/25 VM64799 UM33139 1000 IOCP NEW FUNCTION 1. 10/08/19 PK97799 UK59301 1000 HLASM SUPPORT FOR IBM ZENTERPRIS gclo...@br.ibm.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System <IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU> 11/12/2010 02:56 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System <IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU> To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: APARs and PTFs for the z196 George, That is a correction for a NON-SES product: EREP. Not managed by SERVICE/PUT2PROD. See "Service Guide" how to apply NON-SES PTFs. ______________________________________________ Clovis From: George Henke/NYLIC <george_he...@newyorklife.com> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 08/11/2010 14:24 Subject: Re: APARs and PTFs for the z196 Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System <IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU> All 14 z196 compatibility APARs listed below went on fine except for PK97799. SES says there is not service for this APAR. How can there be no service? ************************************************************************ **** SERVICE USERID: MAINT **** ************************************************************************ **** Date: 11/05/10 Time: 23:52:46 **** ************************************************************************ ST:VMFSRV2195I SERVICE ALL 2817HLA ST:VMFSRV2760I SERVICE processing started ST:VMFSUI2760I VMFSUFIN processing started ST:VMFSUI2760I VMFSUFIN processing started for product 5696234G%HLASM ST:VMFSUI1200I No SERVICE record was found for product 5696234G%HLASM ST: in table VM SYSSUF ST:VMFSUI1206I Service was not installed for product 5696234G%HLASM ST:VMFSUI2760I VMFSUFIN processing completed successfully for product ST: 5696234G%HLASM ST:VMFSUI2760I VMFSUFIN processing started for product 5696234J%HLASM ST:VMFSUI1200I No SERVICE record was found for product 5696234J%HLASM ST: in table VM SYSSUF ST:VMFSUI1206I Service was not installed for product 5696234J%HLASM ST:VMFSUI2760I VMFSUFIN processing completed successfully for product ST: 5696234J%HLASM ST:VMFSUI2760I VMFSUFIN processing completed successfully ST:VMFSUT2760I VMFSUFTB processing started ST:VMFSUT2760I VMFSUFTB processing completed successfully ST:VMFSRV2760I SERVICE processing completed successfully George Henke/NYLIC 11/05/2010 11:27 PM To The IBM z/VM Operating System <IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU> cc Subject Re: APARs and PTFs for the z196Link Well the list of z196 (alias 2817) compatibility APARs has grown. Here are all 14 now in alphanumeric order: PK97799 VM64656 VM64672 VM64747 VM64774 VM64793 VM64798 VM64799 VM64807 VM64818 VM64820 VM64879 VM64881 VM64891 btw: The only way I could find the page in the link Clovis supplied was by searching SHOPZ on 2817 the other name for a z196. "Les Geer (607-429-3580)" <g...@gdlvm7.vnet.ibm.com> Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System <IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU> 11/05/2010 04:40 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System <IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU> To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: APARs and PTFs for the z196 >I thought VM64798, VM64879, and VM64881 were the only APARs needed for >z196 compatibility for z/VM 5.4. > >You are 6.1 so maybe it is different. > >But if not, I better find out fast. > > The above lists the minimum CP APARs (for 5.4 and 6.1) required to apply prior to IPLing on a z196. Mike is listing CMS, PerfKit, and pre-requisite APARs. Since the above list was generated, CP APAR VM64891 should also be applied. Also, to add to Mike's pre-requisite list below, VM64818. Best Regards, Les Geer IBM z/VM and Linux Development > > > > > >Hello list, > >I'm trying to verify that I've got all the latest service for the z196. I >start with a z/VM 6.1 system that is up to the latest RSU, service level >1002. > >==> q cplevel >z/VM Version 6 Release 1.0, service level 1002 (64-bit) >Generated at 11/05/10 13:53:17 EDT >IPL at 11/05/10 14:50:40 EDT > >Then, disregarding HCD and HCM, I believe the list of APARs to apply is >"VM64774 VM64798 VM64879 VM64881 VM64793 VM64820 VM64814 VM64807 VM64799". > >I order them from ShopZseries and SERVICE ALL/PUT2PROD them. I SHUTDOWN >REIPL then write and run a short EXEC to verify: > >==> type check910 exec > >/* EXEC to check for z196 PTFs */ >'service cp status VM64774' >'service cp status VM64798' >'service cp status VM64879' >'service cp status VM64881' >'service cp status VM64793' >'service perftk status VM64820' >'service cp status VM64814' >'service cms status VM64799' > >==> check910 >VMFSRV2760I SERVICE processing started >VMFSRV1226I CP (6VMCPR10%CP) APAR VM64774 (PTF UM33169) status: >VMFSRV1226I RECEIVED 11/05/10 13:52:51 >VMFSRV1226I APPLIED 11/05/10 13:52:52 >VMFSRV1226I BUILT 11/05/10 13:53:57 >VMFSRV1226I PUT2PROD 11/05/10 13:55:55 >VMFSRV2760I SERVICE processing completed successfully >VMFSRV2760I SERVICE processing started >VMFSRV1226I CP (6VMCPR10%CP) APAR VM64798 (PTF UM33153) status: >VMFSRV1226I RECEIVED 11/05/10 13:13:20 >VMFSRV1226I APPLIED 11/05/10 13:13:22 >VMFSRV1226I BUILT 11/05/10 13:15:43 >VMFSRV1226I PUT2PROD 11/05/10 13:19:25 >VMFSRV2760I SERVICE processing completed successfully >VMFSRV2760I SERVICE processing started >VMFSRV1226I CP (6VMCPR10%CP) APAR VM64879 (PTF UM33172) status: >VMFSRV1226I RECEIVED 11/05/10 13:52:51 >VMFSRV1226I APPLIED 11/05/10 13:52:52 >VMFSRV1226I BUILT 11/05/10 13:53:57 >VMFSRV1226I PUT2PROD 11/05/10 13:55:55 >VMFSRV2760I SERVICE processing completed successfully >VMFSRV2760I SERVICE processing started >VMFSRV1226I CP (6VMCPR10%CP) APAR VM64881 (PTF UM33184) status: >VMFSRV1226I RECEIVED 11/05/10 13:52:51 >VMFSRV1226I APPLIED 11/05/10 13:52:52 >VMFSRV1226I BUILT 11/05/10 13:53:57 >VMFSRV1226I PUT2PROD 11/05/10 13:55:55 >VMFSRV2760I SERVICE processing completed successfully >VMFSRV2760I SERVICE processing started >VMFSRV1226I CP (6VMCPR10%CP) APAR VM64793 (PTF UM33093) status: >VMFSRV1226I RECEIVED 11/05/10 13:13:20 >VMFSRV1226I APPLIED 11/05/10 13:13:22 >VMFSRV1226I BUILT 11/05/10 13:15:43 >VMFSRV1226I PUT2PROD 11/05/10 13:19:25 >VMFSRV2760I SERVICE processing completed successfully >VMFSRV2760I SERVICE processing started >VMFSRV1226I PERFTK (6VMPTK10%PERFTK) APAR VM64820 (PTF UM33158) status: >VMFSRV1226I RECEIVED 11/05/10 13:53:24 >VMFSRV1226I APPLIED 11/05/10 13:53:25 >VMFSRV2760I SERVICE processing completed successfully >VMFSRV2760I SERVICE processing started >VMFSRV1226I CP (6VMCPR10%CP) APAR VM64814 (PTF UM33148) status: >VMFSRV1226I RECEIVED 11/05/10 13:13:20 >VMFSRV1226I APPLIED 11/05/10 13:13:22 >VMFSRV1226I BUILT 11/05/10 13:15:43 >VMFSRV1226I PUT2PROD 11/05/10 13:19:25 >VMFSRV2760I SERVICE processing completed successfully >VMFSRV2760I SERVICE processing started >VMFSRV1226I CMS (6VMCMS10%CMS) APAR VM64799 (PTF UM33141) status: >VMFSRV1226I RECEIVED 11/05/10 13:52:36 >VMFSRV1226I APPLIED 11/05/10 13:52:37 >VMFSRV1226I BUILT 11/05/10 13:53:57 >VMFSRV1226I PUT2PROD 11/05/10 13:55:55 >VMFSRV2760I SERVICE processing completed successfully > >Does this sound right? 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