I do the same.  Since I have so many VSE & z/OS guests I find it easier to
keep all my JCL and editing in CMS and submit to the appropriate guest.
 Better than having 5 or 6 Telnet sessions open to various guests.

On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 11:57 AM, McKown, John <
john.mck...@healthmarkets.com> wrote:

> I loved CMS many years ago. I no longer work for a company with z/VM.
> Haven't for years. Using CMS and RSCS to submit jobs to MVS (yes, that long
> ago - MVS 3.8!) was so much better than TSO it wasn't even funny. Now I'm
> using a Linux desktop and writing code which allows me to use it for some
> things instead of TSO. OpenSSH is really helping on that. But I'm getting
> off-topic.
>
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
> > [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of George Henke/NYLIC
> > Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 10:53 AM
> > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> > Subject: Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?
> >
> > Some companies in the past preferred to confine application
> > programmers to CMS due to the large overhead of TSO address
> > spaces thereby realizing savings in CPU and storage.
> >
> > CMS is not as well liked as TSO/ISPF by application
> > programmers, but given CPU price sensitivity these days, it
> > may not be such a bad idea and, who knows, it might even
> > convert them z/VM.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Bill Munson <william.mun...@bbh.com>
> > Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System <IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU>
> >
> > 12/10/2010 10:57 AM
> > Please respond to
> > The IBM z/VM Operating System <IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU>
> >
> > To
> > IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> > cc
> > Subject
> > Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Tom,
> >
> > as Mike said there are a lot of companies I know of that are
> > using "CMS" applications for day to day work and the DATA
> > resides on "VM"
> >
> > they are using "FOCUS" for report generation , as well as
> > "MAILBOOK" for e-mail and interoffice file transfers , and
> > some are using VM:Backup and VM:Archive and the Shared File
> > System for numerous versions of Source Code like GDG's on TSO
> > and submitting their compiles and assembles to VM:Batch for
> > processing.  There is still a lot of WORK being done on "VM"
> > and these companies are not running any other "OS" as a guest
> > of these "VM" systems.  They might and do have other "VM"'s
> > for running LINUX or "VSE" .
> >
> > Granted it is a vast minority of what it was 10, 15, and 20
> > years ago.
> >
> > munson
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From:        Tom Huegel <tehue...@gmail.com>
> > To:        IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> > Date:        12/10/2010 09:16 AM
> > Subject:        Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?
> > Sent by:        The IBM z/VM Operating System
> > <IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU>
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Does anyone run applications in z/VM? Isn't the 'protected
> > data' owned by some other OS (z/OS, z/VSE, zLINUX). It seems
> > that the high level security effort belongs in those OS's.
> > z/VM just needs to keep those systems isolated and NOT be
> > able to circumvent their security procedures.
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 2:46 AM, Les Koehler
> > <vmr...@tampabay.rr.com <mailto:vmr...@tampabay.rr.com> > wrote:
> > Back in the old days, I recall a finance type person saying
> > something like: The Gold Standard is that it should take
> > collusion between two or more people to defraud the company.
> >
> > If we apply that to IT, then shouldn't pswds for privileged
> > userids that can access/change financial data be long enough
> > that TWO sysprogs can each be given half a pswd so they both
> > have to be present to make a change?
> >
> > Les
> >
> >
> > Alan Altmark wrote:
> > On Thursday, 12/09/2010 at 12:01 EST, Tom Huegel
> > <tehue...@gmail.com <mailto:tehue...@gmail.com> > wrote:
> > Does it really matter? SOX is just another way congress has
> > come up with
> > to
> > destroy the American economy, and in fact the American way of life.
> >
> > When you read the law, you find that SOX is "simply" a way to
> > hold executives responsible for the financial statements
> > issued by their companies.  Assuming no ill intent (no
> > comments, please!), that means trustworthy data.  That flows
> > downhill, as all such things must, until we start talking
> > about access controls and audit mechanisms for financial
> > data.  That is, knowing who has the means and the opportunity
> > to access the data, and knowing who has actually done so.  (I
> > leave it to others to talk about motive.)  Who, what, where, when.
> >
> > Unfortunately, IT security industry consultants have mangled
> > this laudable concept into a paranoia-inducing behemoth that
> > has people screaming in terror as it rampages across the
> > country, flogging every sysadmin in its path.  Why?  Because
> > financial status is inferred from many other data sources and
> > no one wants to spend the time it takes to follow all the
> > data flows.  Result: Secure Everything.
> >
> > With HIPAA and PCI running alongside, the "Secure Everything"
> > policy looks even more reasonable to CEOs, CIOs, CFOs, and
> > their lawyers.
> >
> > Alan Altmark
> >
> > z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant
> > IBM System Lab Services and Training
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