I don't believe I ever worked with 200 bpi tapes, but I did work were we had
8 tape drives 6 were 800 bpi and 2 were 1600 bpi with the optional high
speed rewind. I guess maybe byte counts were more important back then..

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:45 PM, Schuh, Richard <rsc...@visa.com> wrote:

>  Round tape reels! Now, that is old. Since I remember them too, we are
> both showing our age. Do you remember when the 200 bpi density?
>
>
> Regards,
> Richard Schuh
>
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> *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] *On
> Behalf Of *Tom Huegel
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 30, 2011 8:37 PM
>
> *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> *Subject:* Re: DDR Question
>
>  Slight brain fart, I didn't even think of hardware compression duh! I
> guess the only real way to to do it is just experimentation.
> I still seem to remember a program from long ago, and it may have been a
> VSE program, that would tell you how many bytes would go to the tape, in
> fact I think it told you how many feet of tape (2400/3400) would be used..
>
> Thanks guys.
>
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Tom Duerbusch <duerbus...@stlouiscity.com
> > wrote:
>
>> If you are doing software compression, then, perhaps use the Pipe DDR
>> stage and route it to the "count" stage.
>> But knowing how much compression the hardware will do....not obvious to
>> me.
>>
>> However, once you do have a compressed tape, DITTO TMP will tell you how
>> much tape the compressed dataset took on the media.
>>
>> Tom Duerbusch
>> THD Consulting
>>
>> >>> Rich Greenberg <ric...@panix.com> 3/30/2011 4:55 PM >>>
>>  On: Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 11:37:00AM -0700,Tom Huegel Wrote:
>>
>> } That doesn't show the compressed byte count is (would be). The goal here
>> is
>> } to be able to predict how many tapes I will need to do backups.
>>
>> If you are doing hardware compression in the tape drive, I don't think
>> there is any way for DDR to know the compressed byte count.  Software
>> compression, yes it would.
>>
>> I suspect that  the easiest way to determine the tape counts will be
>> experimentally.
>>
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