Just don't compress the data more than once. If hdwe compression is going to happen, don't let it be passed thru a s/w compression stage. Double compression isn't twice as dense or good. It probably will explode to more than you started with.

Jim

On 3/30/2011 11:36 PM, Tom Huegel wrote:
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Slight brain fart, I didn't even think of hardware compression duh! I guess
the only real way to to do it is just experimentation.
I still seem to remember a program from long ago, and it may have been a VSE
program, that would tell you how many bytes would go to the tape, in fact I
think it told you how many feet of tape (2400/3400) would be used..

Thanks guys.

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Tom Duerbusch
<duerbus...@stlouiscity.com>wrote:

If you are doing software compression, then, perhaps use the Pipe DDR stage
and route it to the "count" stage.
But knowing how much compression the hardware will do....not obvious to me.

However, once you do have a compressed tape, DITTO TMP will tell you how
much tape the compressed dataset took on the media.

Tom Duerbusch
THD Consulting

Rich Greenberg<ric...@panix.com>  3/30/2011 4:55 PM>>>
On: Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 11:37:00AM -0700,Tom Huegel Wrote:

} That doesn't show the compressed byte count is (would be). The goal here
is
} to be able to predict how many tapes I will need to do backups.

If you are doing hardware compression in the tape drive, I don't think
there is any way for DDR to know the compressed byte count.  Software
compression, yes it would.

I suspect that  the easiest way to determine the tape counts will be
experimentally.

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THD Consulting<br>
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