On Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 12:31:59PM -0400, Karen Thomas wrote:
> >>> Training usually begins when the horse is four winters old.
> 
> Ima will soon be "four winters old".  I call that 3.5 though and I'm not
> planning to start her any time soon, at least not under saddle.  

a horse considered ready to train is a coming five-year-old.

> Hmm, that sounds like the same-old, same-old to me.

yes, this is obviously a very basic page written by a non-native english
speaker, outlining the basics in a short space.  
 
> I don't like the sound of "making it run in circles inside a fence."  We do
> very little "free lunging" (round-penning, whatever you want to call it) but
> mainly just enough for the horse to feel how a saddle and girth feels, with
> stirrups flopping, but without a rider up to add to the confusion.   

huh.  i still do a lot of it with stjarni, who is quite grown, to see how 
he is moving without a rider (we do it without tack either, and our ring 
is not round, but i think the idea is the same) and also to work on voice
commands.  (i would not take a student on the trail if i weren't pretty
sure stjarni responded to my "whoa" even when i'm not on his back.)

> why should a horse have to wait to learn about "life in the stable" at the
> same time he's about to learn so much else?

because icelandics in iceland spend a lot of time out of the stable as
well, and need to understand that (quite hazardous, if i understand the
terrain) and herd dynamics very well to get along there.
 
> Yeah, yeah, yeah.  That "never-before-seen-gait"...unless you live in the
> south, where it's called "rack"!  :)

i still think that the icelandic term "tolt" refers to a spectrum of
gaits, including both the english "rack" and other english subterms such
as the "amble" and "foxtrot" and "running walk".
 
> >>> Once the training is completed the horse should either be gentle enough
> for children and inexperienced riders or be able to compete in tournaments
> with professional riders.
> 
> And how long should that take?  Why is it a given that most/all horses
> should be able to compete in shows?   Why not focus on the kind of training
> the horse will be used for, instead of claiming the horse to be perfect for
> all jobs.

they SPECIFICALLY don't claim that; they said "or", not "and".  

--vicka

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