On Sun, Sep 02, 2007 at 08:26:30PM -0700, Judy Ryder wrote: > I have to trust my own eyes, my own first-hand experiences, and my long-term > equine experience, over yours. Sorry.
and i have to trust mine over yours. sorry. > I'm not so sure that a beginner and new owner can see other than a > superficial layer. i'm neither a beginner horsewoman nor, after a year, a new owner. my experience is more current than yours; i speak, on average, to two icelanders (ebba in person and another friend/colleague over the net) every week. > Especially when that person is vested in who they are expressing an opinion > about. and how exactly am i vested in either of them? one i bought a horse from a year ago; the other is my current choice (among some arbitrary number available; i've had half a dozen others) of instructors. > But... tell me HOW you see that they are different than any other > icelandic-style trainer in how they train and ride. they fail to conform to your script: . tack -- both are concerned with saddle fit, use snaffles, and don't use tight nosebands . riding -- both are "quiet" riders as i've seen them in real life . priorities -- both prioritize, or at least support me in prioritizing, a quiet, sane horse, not a hypersensitive one (and if you insist that gudmar must prioritize the latter b/c of the horses you see him on in videos, i should point out that he *trained* stjarni, and several of the horses for sale on his site are described in similar "calm, anyone can ride" terms -- and because i have stjarni as an example, i find this claim entirely believable) . preference for a "centered riding"-type seat for the rider . emphasizing flexibility and suppleness for the horse . concern for the horse as a living, sensitive, emotional creature in fact i've never met any icelanders who *do* conform to your script, although i am polite enough to presume you're not making it up out of whole cloth and video, as representative of your average horseperson from iceland as a rodeo show would be of your average american. --vicka