No one wants it to be the permanent solution, and ARC is one alternative
proposal.  But “From munging”, while ugly and not without down-sides, is
something that can be done unilaterally and works.  ARC and related
mechanisms require widespread adoption in order to be effective.

Barry

On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 9:03 AM Mark Alley <mark.alley=
[email protected]> wrote:

> That's a question I've always had on this topic.
>
> Is 5322.FROM an acceptable long-term workaround for DMARC enforced
> domains? The community in general seems to be split on 5322.FROM munging
> and it's use in practice.
>
> On 11/30/2022 12:41 AM, Barry Leiba wrote:
> >>> Unless I’m misunderstanding you’re saying those with an
> >>> enforcing DMARC policy can’t successfully send to mailing lists.
> >>> I’m doing it now so I don’t think DMARC has to stay inert if
> >>> mailing lists. That’s a bit of a generalization.
> >>     _dmarc.marmot-tech.com. 300 IN TXT "v=DMARC1; p=none;
> >>     rua=mailto:[email protected]; ruf=mailto:[email protected];
> >>     fo=1"
> >>
> >> No, you don’t have an enforcing DMARC policy. But if you did,
> >> you would still be able to successfully send to this mailing
> >> list, because IETF mailing lists rewrite the From addresses of
> >> messages from enforcing domains.
> > And for mailing list that don't re-write the From address, the issue
> > isn't that the sender can't post.  It's that subscribers whose domains
> > enforce a "p=reject" policy will not get the posts, and will
> > eventually become unsubscribed because of the bounce messages their
> > domains generate.  Neil wouldn't see the harm: others would.  It's
> > insidious.
> >
> > Barry
> >
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