Murray wrote:

Post-delivery survival of the signature is not only not a goal, it is
arguably (or possibly demonstrably) a problem.


Can we say more about this if we're going to take that position?  A naked
"not a goal" doesn't jive with RFC 4686, which explicitly says it is a
goal, or at least that it was one.

I guess that means it comes down to making an argument about what
experience has shown us: Does Barry's use case, plus the Thunderbird
plug-in use case, together carry more weight than the perceived problem
that replay causes?

Also, a reminder that the WG hasn't actually rechartered yet; maybe some of
these debates should wait until that's happened.


I completely disagree with the notion that signatures should be removed. I don't recall it ever being discussed one way or the other, so saying that it is "not a goal" is just a bald assertion. Having the signature survive has forensic value, for better or worse. Yes, and there is "for better" too. Not to mention that MUA's have a stake in this too. Nothing requires MDA's to create an Auth-Res header, for example. Plus there is information in the signature header that can be useful for MUA's.

Also: this is clearly BCP material that everybody is free to ignore. There are no interoperability considerations.

This working group should go back to sleep.

Mike
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