On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 12:36 PM Michael Thomas <[email protected]> wrote:

> I have good reason to be suspicious. That Google was one of the major
> proponents of ARC which was supposedly to deal with the mailing list
> problem but all boiled down to reputation that could already be done with
> plain old DKIM suggests that reputation remains an unsolved problem. Maybe
> it is just one side of the company not knowing what the other side knows,
> but I find that rather unlikely. So there is a contradiction somewhere
> here from where I sit.
>

I would be unsurprised if the consensus is indeed that reputation is an
unsolved problem.  There's no DKIM-based public reputation service that I
know of; it remains the secret sauce of large operators with the resources
to gather enough data to compute such a thing, and they have little
incentive to share.  I did enough experimentation years ago to conclude
that such a thing would be possible to build, but the need for reliable
data sources and the upkeep effort were both significant.

-MSK
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