On 2/2/23 2:16 PM, Tim Wicinski wrote:


On Thu, Feb 2, 2023 at 5:07 PM Michael Thomas <[email protected]> wrote:


    So here is what sticks in my craw. I think I brought up the problem
    statement, but maybe somebody else did before me. It's easy to say
    "here
    is the problem, fix it!" without any context to what any proposed
    fixes
    might break. It would be really bad imo to slap out a minimal problem
    statement and then proceed to solutions without any analysis of
    what any
    solution space should and should not do at a protocol level. I guess
    that's a little bit more requirement-y, but I'm not exactly sure what
    process-wise I'm asking for. DKIM is extremely widely deployed so we
    need to be really careful about not breaking existing practices or
    doing
    unnatural acts that have implications to the wider email community.


My feeling part of the problem statement will be to document various solutions and how testing should be done and what to look for (breaking existing practice would
be key).

It may be that one solution is protocol rev which works outside of current dkim. We wrestled with this in the early days of DPRIVE - adding additional encryption onto
DNS was viewed in a similar manner.


I don't know if there is a formal IETF definitely of what constitutes a problem statement but it's easy to imagine a problem statement that... just states the problem. I don't think we have discussed what should actually be in scope for this problem statement. I guess we could suss that out before there are chairs, but obviously we'd need them to make consensus calls.

Mike
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