> On 10 Mar 2023, at 00:30, Michael Thomas <m...@mtcc.com> wrote: > > Now that we have a chair, I have a question about process wrt to the charter. > The charter states that either the working group will produce documents > addressing the problem, or it will produce a document saying why it can't do > anything about it within the IETF confines. I strongly suspect that that the > latter will be the conclusion but I don't know what the process would look > like to come to that conclusion. It seems like it entails a long list of > "can't do this"'s etc followed by "we give up". But that list could be nearly > endless if it is allowed to get out of hand. So what does it take to come to > that conclusion from a process standpoint?
Our current milestones are: Apr 2023 - Post a consensus problem statement draft to the datatracker (may not go to the IESG) Jun 2023 - Proposal regarding plans for remaining document(s) presented to the AD Dec 2023 - Submit technical specifications for replay-resistant DKIM enhancement(s) to the IESG at Proposed Standard Dec 2023 - Submit revised operational advice for replay-resistant DKIM use to the IESG at Informational Coming to the conclusion will be done in the same manner as IETF decisions are made: by group consensus. That includes the consensus on whether or not this is a protocol problem or an operational problem. As I read the charter, that decision needs to be made by June, meaning we have slightly more than 2 1/2 months to reach it. That gives us a specific time constraint for that discussion. > Also: if M3AAWG is producing its own BCP can that actually be taken as an > IETF BCP? > Wouldn't it need to just be informational since the IETF community had no > input to its making and the deliberation behind it? Since I'm not a member, > it's opaque to me about the reasoning and what guided the recommendations. > Worse is that since there is so much opaque industry secrecy surrounding > this, it's pretty much impossible to test the recommendations to see if they > are correct. The IETF process will be followed for any documents published by this working group. laura -- The Delivery Experts Laura Atkins Word to the Wise la...@wordtothewise.com Email Delivery Blog: http://wordtothewise.com/blog
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