+1 > On 25 Mar 2023, at 01:19, Barry Leiba <barryle...@computer.org> wrote: > > I don't agree with the premise. I think what was tried and didn't > work should be documented in the result that the working group comes > out with, but not in the problem statement. > > Barry > > On Sat, Mar 25, 2023 at 8:57 AM Michael Thomas <m...@mtcc.com> wrote: >> >> >> And yes, that means spam filters and the rest of the ecosystem around >> email in which DKIM operates. As in, why exactly are we here? Why can't >> industry groups come up with their own solutions? We either document it >> now, or argue about it later especially when it becomes plain that there >> is no protocol solution and that a BCP is the only possible positive >> outcome of this rechartering. An outcome that is specifically allowed >> for in the charter I will note. It need not be exhaustive, but it would >> be good to document some of the constraints on the solution space as >> well as what has been tried and failed. x= is a perfect example. >> >> Also: there has not been any consensus that the shape and scope of the >> two current proposals is correct or sufficient. We are far from the >> point that this is just wordsmithing imo, appeals to the contrary not >> withstanding. >> >> Somebody brought up that this could turn into a research project. >> Frankly I think that is highly likely the case and is why rechartering >> was so problematic. Since M3AAWG can't figure it out with lots of inside >> the industry information, what makes anybody think the wider community >> would have better insight which is not speculative because it has been >> tested and known to work? It speaks volumes that they didn't have a >> solution in mind and bring it to IETF to vet in the wider community. >> That sure sounds like a research project to me. >> >> Mike >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ietf-dkim mailing list >> Ietf-dkim@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-dkim > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf-dkim mailing list > Ietf-dkim@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-dkim
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