On Aug 11, 2010, at 3:01 PM, Tony Finch wrote:

> 
> On Wed, 11 Aug 2010, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote:
>> 
>> Some SMTP servers (even some smarthosts) will act as an SMTP client before
>> replying to the dot. That was true twenty years ago (when random unix boxes
>> acted as a general spool and MUAs could run e.g. sendmail -bs or smail
>> -iforget to talk to an SMTP server), and it's true now.
> 
> I think that's only true if you are running sendmail -odi (deliver
> interactively option). Smail does local delivery in the foreground and
> remote delivery in the background (dunno if that includes DNS lookups).
> Exim can't be told to do foreground deliveries while talking to an SMTP
> client, and qmail and postfix don't have the right architecture to allow
> it.
> 
> This sort of supports my earlier comment about the design of mailers
> changing in this respect about 15 years ago.

Spam filtering appliances and services sometimes run as, effectively,
proxies rather than store-and-forward MTAs. Postini works in this
way, I think, as do some of the enterprise filtering appliances that
people protect their Exchange servers with.

If anything, they're a more recent approach to mail filtering than
their competitors that are cobbled together using the store-and-forward
MTAs you mention. They have significant deployment advantages
and some disadvantages.

Cheers,
  Steve



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