g'day, Masataka Ohta wrote: . . . > If IETF makes it clear that AOL is not an ISP, it will commercially > motivate AOL to be an ISP. Not to be unkind, since the IETF has done some good work, but the above statement is incorrect. If you'd written "If AOL perceives that the market would punish them if the IETF makes it clear that AOL is not an ISP, it will commercially motivate AOL to be an ISP" you might be closer to the mark. The bottom line is, the world isn't waiting for us to tell them the right way to do what they want and the clever solutions we came up with as solutions to the networking problems of 1970, or 1980, or 1990 don't demand that they adopt our proposals for solving their problems of 2000. We're in serious danger of surrendering to the same elitist posturing for which we used to vilify the mainframe community. Pity, but we'll have only ourselves to blame if and when the users pass us by... - peterd (feeling testy this evening) -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Peter Deutsch work email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Engineerng Manager Caching & Content Routing Content Services Business Unit private: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cisco Systems "I want to die quietly and peacefully in my sleep like my granfather, not screaming in terror like his passengers..." - Emo Phillips --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Re: draft-ietf-nat-protocol-complications-02.txt
Peter Deutsch in Mountain View Wed, 19 Jul 2000 23:10:57 -0700
- Re: draft-ietf-na... Masataka Ohta
- Re: draft-ietf-na... Randy Bush
- Re: draft-ietf-na... Keith Moore
- Re: draft-ietf-na... Patrik Fältström
- Re: draft-ietf-na... Keith Moore
- RE: draft-ietf-na... aboba
- Re: draft-ietf-na... Masataka Ohta
- Re: draft-ietf-na... Keith Moore
- Re: draft-ietf-na... Masataka Ohta
- RE: draft-ietf-na... Brijesh Kumar
- Re: draft-ietf-na... Peter Deutsch in Mountain View
- Re: draft-ietf-na... Keith Moore
- Re: draft-ietf-na... Randy Bush
- RE: draft-ietf-na... mark.paton
- RE: draft-ietf-na... Randy Bush
- Re: draft-ietf-na... Keith Moore
- Re: draft-ietf-na... Masataka Ohta
- Re: draft-ietf-nat-protocol-compli... Eliot Lear
- Re: draft-ietf-nat-protocol-complications-0... J. Noel Chiappa
- Re: draft-ietf-nat-protocol-complicati... Keith Moore
- Re: draft-ietf-nat-protocol-complications-0... Leonid Yegoshin