> So at this point the rule in the identity space is safety in numbers. The
major waring factions are now spending considerable 
> time and effort to show that the war is over and there is going to be a
concerted joint effort. Thus ISOC joining liberty does > not represent the
IETF taking sides in a Betamax/VHS battle. That would have been an issue
three years ago, it is not really an > issue at this point.
 
So, who is the winner? (Or are there only loosers, more like in a real war?)
 

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