Actually (shhhh), the IETF *does* get credit for rooms sold. We reconcile the 
attendee list with hotel guests. Go for it.

On Jan 3, 2012, at 2:48 PM, Michael StJohns wrote:

> The pre-pay is pretty annoying.  And the "if you cancel too late, we'll take 
> all your money" *really* annoys me.  So much so that I booked on-line, direct 
> with the hotel at a higher rate for a nicer room, but still better than the 
> rate for the alternate hotel.  And no-prepay and cancel by 4pm the arrival 
> day or pay one day's room.
> 
> I hate doing it this way - the IETF doesn't get any credit for rooms sold.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> At 01:57 PM 1/3/2012, Thomas Nadeau wrote:
> 
>>       I agree. In addition to that the pre-pay situation can be a major PITA 
>> for expensing purposes.  We should add "normal" booking procedures to the 
>> hotel requirements list as well.
>> 
>>       --Tom
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 3, 2012, at 11:52 AM, George, Wes wrote:
>> 
>>> Happy New Year, it's time for our triannual hotel complaint thread.
>>> I hate to do it, but I think that there are people who haven't looked at 
>>> this yet, and I'm hoping that we can perhaps rectify it before the majority 
>>> of folks try to book:
>>> 
>>> "Instructions for making reservations at Hotel Concorde:
>>> Please fill out the reservations form and fax it directly to the hotel at: 
>>> +33 1 57 00 50 79 or email it to cmas...@concorde-hotels.com"
>>> 
>>> It's 2012, but the IETF and this hotel chain expects us to book 
>>> reservations at the main conference hotel by (international) FAX or by 
>>> *emailing* a form which includes a credit card number so that the hotel can 
>>> hold the room and implement its relatively bizarre prepay/anti-cancellation 
>>> policy.
>>> Would it be trolling to ask whether anyone verified that "cmasson" has 
>>> support for PGP encrypted-email and a proper method of securely storing 
>>> (and then destroying after use) the several hundred credit card numbers 
>>> they are about to receive?
>>> 
>>> What person or rate code should we ask for when booking our rooms over the 
>>> phone? (hey if I'm going old school, I'm doing it all the way!) Though, 
>>> given the above, I'm relatively worried that my credit card number will 
>>> simply end up on an unprotected spreadsheet on a PC somewhere in their 
>>> office even if I call to book.
>>> 
>>> More practically, the hotel blocks at the primary hotel typically fill up 
>>> quite fast once registration is opened, especially since the overflow hotel 
>>> is actually more expensive than the primary. Does the hotel fax/call us 
>>> back to tell us that they have no more rooms available for our requested 
>>> dates, or is the block open-ended such that they will keep selling rooms in 
>>> it until the cutoff regardless of the number?
>>> 
>>> Evidently "ability to book group rate rooms online" is something that 
>>> should be added to our list of hotel requirements. I'm stunned that it's 
>>> not there already.
>>> 
>>> Wes George
>>> 
>>> 
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