--On Wednesday, November 28, 2012 08:15 +0000 Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>... > The list of attendees is now taken care of by the scanned blue > sheets, but the barely literate "he said, she said" minutes > from most WGs are pretty much useless. For people attempting > to participate only via the mailing list this is a problem. > > Let's have more minutes like these: > http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/85/minutes/minutes-85-opsawg This is, IMO, a consequence of our developing fancy tools and then uncritically relying on them. A Jabber log or real-time Etherpad may be, and probably is, a very helpful way to keep real-time notes within a meeting but some WGs have substituted nearly-unedited versions of them (especially the latter) for minutes. They are not minutes, certainly not minutes as contemplated by RFC 2418, and I sincerely hope that the IESG and the community push back on those "barely literate" notes before there is an appeal against a WG decision or document approval that is based, even in part, on failure of the WG to comply with that 2418 requirement. john
