On 18/06/13 21:08, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:
When I make a statement at the microphone and then have multiple people come to thank me afterwards for making that point I don't consider it pontificating.



sorry, just point it out, sometimes you said it right, but that does not guarantee you are always right. to correct and make it clearer, "when ... made a statement, ... people came to thank" for past experience, no present tense please.

no further comment, since I actually appreciate what you said and the intention, as you described below.

-- Aaron

I do however consider your own response to be an example of the type of exclusionary behavior that I was talking about. Dismissing those concerns as 'pontificating' does not help matters. And you have no idea what actions I have taken to attempt to recruit people to get involved.

The issue was raised in the IETF plenary I would have expected mention of a followup mailing list to be made here on the ietf discussion list.




On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Peter Saint-Andre <stpe...@stpeter.im <mailto:stpe...@stpeter.im>> wrote:

    On 6/18/13 10:52 AM, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:
    > I am rather disappointed that there hasn't been any followup to the
    > diversity discussion that took place at the plenary.

    Speak for yourself. Some of us are taking concrete actions (e.g.,
    recruiting people for document shepherd and WG chair roles) instead of
    pontificating at the mic.

    Peter

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    Peter Saint-Andre
    https://stpeter.im/





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