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On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Narendra Sisodiya < [email protected]> wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 11:24 PM, Narendra Sisodiya < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Nilesh Govindarajan <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> On 09/01/2010 10:05 AM, gajendra khanna wrote: >>> >>>> Hi >>>> >>>>> Me Lord, Point to be noted, I object, >>>>> This is where the problem exist. You tells , You explained., Wiki >>>>> explains, >>>>> 100 blogs explains, Google search explains... >>>>> Why cannot you think in a simplistic way... where User can explain to >>>>> himself. If you ask the best way THE USER like then I would say >>>>> Users must be asked for Drop drown menu (to select, facebook, >>>>> googlechat, >>>>> yahoo etc) >>>>> Then Username/email and password nothing else. Software is meant to >>>>> keep >>>>> complexity. Think like meebo.. Any Interface which ask other then these >>>>> things is "very very very bad" >>>>> If we can customize Linux in the way USER want and USER like then we >>>>> can win >>>>> the game. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> other non-geeky very new users who just migrated from windows the same >>>>>> thing and they were able to configure it successfully in the first >>>>>> attempt. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> XMPP compliance is a new introduction to facebook chat. >>>> Pidgin should gradually introduce Facebook as an option. Similar was >>>> the case with gtalk as well. Initially it was configured with xmpp and >>>> now gtalk appears as an option in new versions of pidgin. >>>> G >>>> >>>> >>> File a bug report in their list. :-) >>> >>> @Narendra, you ignored the rest part of my second paragraph lol. >>> I told you, with the same explanation they were able to configure it in >>> the first attempt. >> >> >> I commented on these two lines itself. perhaps you are not trying to >> listen me or taking it offensive. I am making a general example. >> This is what the problem is Linux and you. >> My question was this. If you were not there for explaining the >> configuration , will they be able to do it themself. How much time they >> would have needed to apply the settings. >> Compare this with any window based facebook software. >> >> > Today my brother took unable to start the a torrent in Vuze. It was it > downloading tab. I checked the options but I am unable to figure out how to > start downloading. looking 5 times in right click menu I clicked on "Queue". > It started. Why the hell the developer of Vuze have in their mind. Why the > hell they have not wrote it as "Start" Or "Start Downloading". > > Please do not click the reply button to say - "file bug" > I can any way files bugs and develop software. I am not wasting my time > anyway. I am applying it somewhere in some other contribution or advocacy. > Point here is if you develop a FOSS software then you represent FOSS > community is someway. Now the first impression about the > Comfortability/Usability gave a wrong impression on whole community itself.. > > My brother use to say,, -- "Kya yaar bhaiya, kon si cheej pakda di hai, > samajh hi nahi aata hai, bahut se software chalte hi nahi hai" Point here is > not blaming Linux is bad. Linux Distro are far superior then windows and has > no comparison but when it comes to usability aspect, Linux distros are very > poor in this context. > > If nilesh was not there at friends house, his friend would have used > Internet. they would have searched in Internet and after going 10 url/links > they might not got the proper solution of XMPP settings for facebook. > > Pidgin is most popular application for chat in Linux, And Facebook is > biggest social chat platform from last 1-2 years ago. Why the hell pidgin > developer have not use Facebook Dropdown menu. If we all need to feed same > port and same server then why cannot they feed at coding time itself as > variable[s] etc. > > Their drop down list include so many unknown chat services. > > They have added Google Chat in Drop down but when a normal human being try > to add account then he has to feed > Username - > Domain - (prefilled as gmail.com good) > Password - > *Resource -* > > What the F******. I am temped to become angry and use this type of > language. What Piding developer understand by themself? any user who is > adding first time account for google talk has no clue about what the hell is > Resource - I always use browser interface for google talk but when I tried > to add account in pidgin, I was forced to make a Google search on "how to > add google talk account in pidgin" , What the hell is this, I am using Linux > from last 5 years and still I need google to find how my system works??? > After few search, I figured out, Resource = /Home, But they can pre-filll > it by themself ?. > It might take 50 minute for me to download the source code , make changes , > report bug , submit patch but WHY I should do it when pidgin developer would > have added this. > > The problem is Linux world is , Linux world is driven by the techies who > becomes expert after 100000 hour Google search and then think that these > things are obvious, they never care about the usability aspects. Why cannot > they understand the most simple logic that "first impression is most > important and simplicity always win" > > > I request all of you to post all small small problem which user[you] faces. > We will resolve them in SchoolOS. > > ok i heard ur request..i cant understand ur english..i am facing problem in > understanding ur exact concern..please post in HIndi or English > > -- > ┌─────────────────────────┐ > │ Narendra Sisodiya > │ http://narendrasisodiya.com > └─────────────────────────┘ > > -- > l...@iitd - http://tinyurl.com/ycueutm > -- l...@iitd - http://tinyurl.com/ycueutm
