On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 12:18 AM, ankush <[email protected]> wrote: > > http://wediefornation.blogspot.com/ > > > On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Narendra Sisodiya < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 11:24 PM, Narendra Sisodiya < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Nilesh Govindarajan <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> On 09/01/2010 10:05 AM, gajendra khanna wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi >>>>> >>>>>> Me Lord, Point to be noted, I object, >>>>>> This is where the problem exist. You tells , You explained., Wiki >>>>>> explains, >>>>>> 100 blogs explains, Google search explains... >>>>>> Why cannot you think in a simplistic way... where User can explain to >>>>>> himself. If you ask the best way THE USER like then I would say >>>>>> Users must be asked for Drop drown menu (to select, facebook, >>>>>> googlechat, >>>>>> yahoo etc) >>>>>> Then Username/email and password nothing else. Software is meant to >>>>>> keep >>>>>> complexity. Think like meebo.. Any Interface which ask other then >>>>>> these >>>>>> things is "very very very bad" >>>>>> If we can customize Linux in the way USER want and USER like then we >>>>>> can win >>>>>> the game. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> other non-geeky very new users who just migrated from windows the >>>>>>> same >>>>>>> thing and they were able to configure it successfully in the first >>>>>>> attempt. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> XMPP compliance is a new introduction to facebook chat. >>>>> Pidgin should gradually introduce Facebook as an option. Similar was >>>>> the case with gtalk as well. Initially it was configured with xmpp and >>>>> now gtalk appears as an option in new versions of pidgin. >>>>> G >>>>> >>>>> >>>> File a bug report in their list. :-) >>>> >>>> @Narendra, you ignored the rest part of my second paragraph lol. >>>> I told you, with the same explanation they were able to configure it in >>>> the first attempt. >>> >>> >>> I commented on these two lines itself. perhaps you are not trying to >>> listen me or taking it offensive. I am making a general example. >>> This is what the problem is Linux and you. >>> My question was this. If you were not there for explaining the >>> configuration , will they be able to do it themself. How much time they >>> would have needed to apply the settings. >>> Compare this with any window based facebook software. >>> >>> >> Today my brother took unable to start the a torrent in Vuze. It was it >> downloading tab. I checked the options but I am unable to figure out how to >> start downloading. looking 5 times in right click menu I clicked on "Queue". >> It started. Why the hell the developer of Vuze have in their mind. Why the >> hell they have not wrote it as "Start" Or "Start Downloading". >> >> Please do not click the reply button to say - "file bug" >> I can any way files bugs and develop software. I am not wasting my time >> anyway. I am applying it somewhere in some other contribution or advocacy. >> Point here is if you develop a FOSS software then you represent FOSS >> community is someway. Now the first impression about the >> Comfortability/Usability gave a wrong impression on whole community itself.. >> >> My brother use to say,, -- "Kya yaar bhaiya, kon si cheej pakda di hai, >> samajh hi nahi aata hai, bahut se software chalte hi nahi hai" Point here is >> not blaming Linux is bad. Linux Distro are far superior then windows and has >> no comparison but when it comes to usability aspect, Linux distros are very >> poor in this context. >> >> If nilesh was not there at friends house, his friend would have used >> Internet. they would have searched in Internet and after going 10 url/links >> they might not got the proper solution of XMPP settings for facebook. >> >> Pidgin is most popular application for chat in Linux, And Facebook is >> biggest social chat platform from last 1-2 years ago. Why the hell pidgin >> developer have not use Facebook Dropdown menu. If we all need to feed same >> port and same server then why cannot they feed at coding time itself as >> variable[s] etc. >> >> Their drop down list include so many unknown chat services. >> >> They have added Google Chat in Drop down but when a normal human being try >> to add account then he has to feed >> Username - >> Domain - (prefilled as gmail.com good) >> Password - >> *Resource -* >> >> What the F******. I am temped to become angry and use this type of >> language. What Piding developer understand by themself? any user who is >> adding first time account for google talk has no clue about what the hell is >> Resource - I always use browser interface for google talk but when I tried >> to add account in pidgin, I was forced to make a Google search on "how to >> add google talk account in pidgin" , What the hell is this, I am using Linux >> from last 5 years and still I need google to find how my system works??? >> After few search, I figured out, Resource = /Home, But they can pre-filll >> it by themself ?. >> It might take 50 minute for me to download the source code , make changes >> , report bug , submit patch but WHY I should do it when pidgin developer >> would have added this. >> >> The problem is Linux world is , Linux world is driven by the techies who >> becomes expert after 100000 hour Google search and then think that these >> things are obvious, they never care about the usability aspects. Why cannot >> they understand the most simple logic that "first impression is most >> important and simplicity always win" >> >> >> I request all of you to post all small small problem which user[you] >> faces. We will resolve them in SchoolOS. >> >> ok i heard ur request..i cant understand ur english..i am facing problem >> in understanding ur exact concern..please post in HIndi or English >> >> Hindi - Linux Distro ko user karte samay aapko hone wali taklifo ko email kar do. English - I request you all for posting all sort of usabilty problems which a linux newbies [ or you] face. We will try to resolve them while customizing SchoolOS.
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