Kalo perubahan model sih sptnya gak terlalu tapi lebih ke perkembangan
warna.....yg dulunya kita gak kenal gold, copper dll sekarang mulai
muncul....tapi ya itulah kasus ikan "hybrid"

Hn
  -----Original Message-----
  From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of willy
  Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 4:52 PM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: [ikan_hias] Re: Pellet Osaka dan Beauty - fashion fish


  Ya bagus boss kalo modelnya (red : strain) berubah-ubah berarti antara
  breeder dan hobbiess mempunyai kreatifitas yg tinggi dan ini bisa membuat
  trendnya lebih panjang dan harga lebih tinggi dpd begitu-begitu aja enggak
  ada perobahan pasti sebentar aja udah jenuh.



  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Anditya Kamadjaja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: <[email protected]>
  Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 4:20 PM
  Subject: [ikan_hias] Re: Pellet Osaka dan Beauty - fashion fish


  > Iya tuh, padahal apa enaknya lihat body cupang segede jarum. yang bagus
  tuh
  > yang lebar, sehat, padat berisi.
  > Cuma yach, susahnya ikan seperti cupang, discus & guppy cepet banget
  > perkembangan modelnya. Baru punya model yang sudah kita incar sejak
  sebulan
  > lalu, ech sudah muncul model baru. Mending yang keluar cuma 1 model.
  > Ternyata bisa keluar 4 model sekaligus. Seperti model baju aja, fashion
  > trendy, man!!!! Hehehehe..........................
  >
  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: "Eko Marliyanto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  > To: <[email protected]>
  > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 4:07 PM
  > Subject: [SPAM] - Re: [ikan_hias] Re: Pellet Osaka dan Beauty - Email
  found
  > in subject
  >
  >
  > > Kalau saya perhatikan banyak para pedagang memelihara asal-asalan
mngak
  > > memperhatikan kualitas yang mereka kejar kebanyakan kuantitas aja.
  > > Sekarang ini yang lagi ramai kalau ngak salah kearah warna copper atau
  > gold.
  > >
  > > Salam
  > > ----- Original Message -----
  > > From: "Hendra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  > > To: "Ikan Hias (E-mail)" <[email protected]>
  > > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 4:00 PM
  > > Subject: RE: [ikan_hias] Re: Pellet Osaka dan Beauty
  > >
  > >
  > > > Lumayan bagus pak, apalagi semakin sering diadain kontes. Kalo untuk
  > > > primadona saya kurang paham pak.....mungkin para senior cupang bisa
  > > > menjawab,
  > > > Untuk body cupang yg cilik2 mungkin jadi dari perawatan sejak
lahirnya
  > gak
  > > > optimal krn ada 2 teman yg sama2 punya cupang usia 3 bulan tapi
  bodynya
  > > beda
  > > > jauh
  > > >
  > > > Hn
  > > >   -----Original Message-----
  > > >   From: [email protected]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  > > > Behalf Of Anditya Kamadjaja
  > > >   Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 3:12 PM
  > > >   To: [email protected]
  > > >   Subject: [ikan_hias] Re: Pellet Osaka dan Beauty
  > > >
  > > >
  > > >   Bagaimana prospek Cupang? Kontesnya makin sering aja tuh! Halfmoon
&
  > > crown
  > > >   masih primadona yach? Saya lihat kalau di Kartini cupangnya crown
  tail
  > > > tapi
  > > >   body-nya cilik-cilik kenapa yach? Masak sich ada cupang bantet.
  Setahu
  > > > saya
  > > >   cupang akan membesar kalau dikasih makannya teratur sejak masa
  > > >   pertumbuhannya.
  > > >
  > > >   ----- Original Message -----
  > > >   From: "Hendra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  > > >   To: <[email protected]>
  > > >   Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 3:05 PM
  > > >   Subject: [SPAM] - RE: [SPAM] - RE: [ikan_hias] Re: Pellet Osaka
dan
  > > > Beauty -
  > > >   Email found in subject - Email found in subject
  > > >
  > > >
  > > >   > Sama-sama......betul pak
  > > >   >
  > > >   > Hn
  > > >   >   -----Original Message-----
  > > >   >   From: [email protected]
  > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  > > >   > Behalf Of Anditya Kamadjaja
  > > >   >   Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 2:54 PM
  > > >   >   To: [email protected]
  > > >   >   Subject: Re: [SPAM] - RE: [ikan_hias] Re: Pellet Osaka dan
  > Beauty -
  > > >   Email
  > > >   > found in subject
  > > >   >
  > > >   >
  > > >   >   Thank's alot BTW.
  > > >   >
  > > >   >   Pelihara Cupang?
  > > >   >
  > > >   >   ----- Original Message -----
  > > >   >   From: "Hendra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  > > >   >   To: <[email protected]>
  > > >   >   Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 1:43 PM
  > > >   >   Subject: [SPAM] - RE: [ikan_hias] Re: Pellet Osaka dan
Beauty -
  > > Email
  > > >   > found
  > > >   >   in subject
  > > >   >
  > > >   >
  > > >   >   > Hehehe.....sorry kalo jualnya sih gak tau ya.....maksud saya
  jl
  > > kaji
  > > > &
  > > >   > jl
  > > >   >   hm
  > > >   >   > sangaji itu ada di kiri jalan hasyim ashari letaknya kalo
kita
  > > > datang
  > > >   > dari
  > > >   >   > arah carefour duta merlin, begitu pak
  > > >   >   >
  > > >   >   > Hn
  > > >   >   >   -----Original Message-----
  > > >   >   >   From: [email protected]
  > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  > > >   >   > Behalf Of Anditya Kamadjaja
  > > >   >   >   Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 1:06 PM
  > > >   >   >   To: [email protected]
  > > >   >   >   Subject: [ikan_hias] Re: Pellet Osaka dan Beauty
  > > >   >   >
  > > >   >   >
  > > >   >   >   Jualnya di dalam rumah? khusus jual koki?
  > > >   >   >
  > > >   >   >   ----- Original Message -----
  > > >   >   >   From: "Hendra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  > > >   >   >   To: <[email protected]>
  > > >   >   >   Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 12:31 PM
  > > >   >   >   Subject: [SPAM] - RE: [ikan_hias] Re: Pellet Osaka dan
  > Beauty -
  > > >   Email
  > > >   >   > found
  > > >   >   >   in subject
  > > >   >   >
  > > >   >   >
  > > >   >   >   > Dekat jl HM Sangaji  (Petojo) pak Andi, kalo misalnya
dari
  > > > Hasyim
  > > >   >   Ashari
  > > >   >   >   > (sebelah carefour duta merlin) tuh jl kaji dulu baru jl
hm
  > > > sangaji
  > > >   >   >   semuanya
  > > >   >   >   > ada di sebelah kiri jalan
  > > >   >   >   >
  > > >   >   >   > Hn
  > > >   >   >   >   -----Original Message-----
  > > >   >   >   >   From: [email protected]
  > > >   > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  > > >   >   >   > Behalf Of Anditya Kamadjaja
  > > >   >   >   >   Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 12:03 PM
  > > >   >   >   >   To: [email protected]
  > > >   >   >   >   Subject: [ikan_hias] Re: Pellet Osaka dan Beauty
  > > >   >   >   >
  > > >   >   >   >
  > > >   >   >   >   Jl. Kaji No. 20 didekat mana?
  > > >   >   >   >
  > > >   >   >   >   ----- Original Message -----
  > > >   >   >   >   From: "luckynug" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  > > >   >   >   >   To: <[email protected]>
  > > >   >   >   >   Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 11:15 AM
  > > >   >   >   >   Subject: [SPAM] - [ikan_hias] Re: Pellet Osaka dan
  > Beauty -
  > > >   Email
  > > >   >   > found
  > > >   >   >   in
  > > >   >   >   >   subject
  > > >   >   >   >
  > > >   >   >   >
  > > >   >   >   >   > Kalo mau kelas yg agak bagus ya di Tropis, showroom
di
  > > > Kosambi
  > > >   >   >   >   > Permai,Dadap (kebanyakan udah diternak di Magelang,
tp
  > > induk
  > > >   >   >   >   > import), atau di Bens Aquarium (Maspion Plaza), kalo
  mau
  > > > lion
  > > >   > head
  > > >   >   >   >   > ada di Jl. Kaji 20(rumah),Itu yg saya
rekomendasikan,
  sb
  > > >   banyak
  > > >   > yg
  > > >   >   >   >   > iklan di koran koki import tapi tidak import. Memang
  utk
  > > > jenis
  > > >   >   >   >   > tertentu, kualitas lokal udah cukup bagus dan
  mendekati
  > > > import
  > > >   >   >   >   > (TulungAgung)seperti Tosa, Oranda, Oranda Red Cap,
  > > >   Mutiara,dll.
  > > >   > Tp
  > > >   >   >   >   > kalo yang jenis rancu, TulungAgung belom bisa
  bersaing.
  > > >   >   >   >   >
  > > >   >   >   >   >
  > > >   >   >   >   > --- In [email protected], "Anditya
Kamadjaja"
  > > >   >   >   >   > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  > > >   >   >   >   > > Beli koki induknya dimana?
  > > >   >   >   >   > >
  > > >   >   >   >   > > ----- Original Message -----
  > > >   >   >   >   > > From: "luckynug" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  > > >   >   >   >   > > To: <[email protected]>
  > > >   >   >   >   > > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 10:50 AM
  > > >   >   >   >   > > Subject: [SPAM] - [ikan_hias] Re: Pellet Osaka dan
  > > > Beauty -
  > > >   >   Email
  > > >   >   >   >   > found in
  > > >   >   >   >   > > subject
  > > >   >   >   >   > >
  > > >   >   >   >   > >
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > Kalo gak salah di Jl. Makaliwe, jalan yg dibawah
  > jalan
  > > > tol
  > > >   >   dalam
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > kota, depan Jelambar, disana satu jalan banyak
yg
  > jual
  > > >   >   Aquarium,
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > Hikari ada kecil ada besar, biasa saya beli yg
  besar
  > > Rp.
  > > >   48
  > > >   > rb
  > > >   >   >   >   > (utk
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > Lion head) yang untuk oranda agak murahan +/- 45
  rb.
  > > > Laris
  > > >   >   > import
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > sendiri, jadi Hikari dijamin asli.Kalo mau
belajar
  > > >   pelihara
  > > >   >   > koki,
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > pake beli yg murah dulu aja, sb gampang
mati.kalo
  > udh
  > > >   serius
  > > >   >   >   >   > beli yg
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > kecil tp kualitaas bgs (co induk import) itu
tidak
  > > mahal
  > > >   > kok.
  > > >   >   > Jgn
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > beli ikan dr Tulung Agung, sb gampang mati kalo
  gak
  > > >   > hati-hati
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > peliharanya (walo harga murah)Kalo beli dr kecil
  dan
  > > > besar
  > > >   >   bisa
  > > >   >   >   >   > jadi
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > kualitas bagus, ada kepuasan sendiri (bg
hobiis).
  > > >   >   >   >   > > >
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > --- In [email protected], Vincent Surya
  > > >   >   > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > wrote:
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > Laris itu Grogol sebelah mana ya boss?? Maklum
  > baru
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > jadi kokiers nih..So hikari banyak jenisnya
juga
  > ??
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > Wah pusing deh..
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > >
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > --- luckynug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > sekarang Liman udh sangat jarang, juga
  > aeratornya,
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > memang kalo
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > hobbiss murni koki dan ingin jago memelihara
  dan
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > membesarkan koki
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > agak rumit dan butuh waktu, sekarang banyak
yg
  > > juara
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > di kontes koki
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > tapi buka dari mengembangkan kualitas
sendiri,
  > > tapi
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > beli import dan
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > dibesarkan, cara meramu gampang-gampang
susah,
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > kompoisis tergantung
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > dari growth mana yg diinginkan, biasa kita
  > > besarkan
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > dulu baru
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > warna,saya maen ikan udah dari thn 1983 kok
  jadi
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > udah tau semua
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > merk, tetra juga bagus. kalo mau beli Hikari
  yg
  > > asli
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > di Laris di
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > grogol aja, harga tdk telalu mahal (kalu
Rancu
  > dan
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > Lion Head, saya
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > anjurkan pake Hikari yg Lion Head)
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > >
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > --- In [email protected],
  > "RWA-Roeswendra
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > Agung Arijadi"
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > > Boss... seingat gua, tahun 1993 (pertama
  main
  > > ikan
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > lagi) emang
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > pellet yang bagus itu HIKARI, tapi waktu itu

  > kalo
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > gak salah hanya
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > dikhususkan untuk koi. Dan jaman itu pellet
  > untuk
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > koki itu LIMAN dan
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > Beauty.... jadi kalo mau murmer dan bagus ya
  > pake
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > LIMAN ... sampai
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > sekarang untuk pellet koki saya tetep pake
  > LIMAN.
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > >
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > > Terus terang aja jaman dulu itu peralatan
  ikan
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > bagus-bagus
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > termasuk pakan ... sekarang ini buaaannyaaak
  > > banget
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > merek peraralatn
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > dan juga makanan ... ampe bikin bingung.
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > >
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > >
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > >
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > > Kalo yang dah main ikan tahun 90-an pasti
  tau
  > > merk
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > MULTI (ini
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > kayak RESUN sekarang lah), LIMAN, RENA dan
  EHEIM
  > > ...
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > sekarang sich
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > merek-merek itu masih ada ..tapi lihat
  > ...........
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > harganya yang gak
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > kuku. Beebrapa waktu lalu saya beli aerator
  > merek
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > MULTI dua
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > lubang ... harga dah 45rb ..sama kayak
  > AZOO..gile
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > kan ?
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > >
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > >
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > >
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > > @gung
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > >
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > > (ikan-nya mati .. beli lagi ajaaaa ....)
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > >
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > >   _____
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > >
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > > From: [email protected]
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > On Behalf Of luckynug
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > > Sent: 17 Mei 2005 11:34
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > > To: [email protected]
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > > Subject: [ikan_hias] Pellet Osaka dan
Beauty
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > >
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > >
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > >
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > > Kalo gw untuk koki tetap Hikari, peletnya
  > nomor
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > satu untuk koki,
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > dapat
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > > dilihat bahwa Hikari ada dijual di
internet
  > > dunia,
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > kalo Beauty dan
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > > Osaka mana ada ? paling di Thai dan
  Asia,tapi
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > menurut gw kalo ikan
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > > yang biasa-biasa aja, gak perlu Hikari
  kecuali
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > kelasnya Show
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > Quality,
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > > dan sesungguhnya yang paling bagus kalau
  kita
  > > >   >   >   >   > > > > > meramu sendiri
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