On 03/25/09 09:27, Darren Reed wrote: > On 25/03/09 09:19 AM, Michael Schuster wrote:
>>> No, but it is easy, informative and much less prone to error. >> >> I think that's up for debate - making a mistake with vi is too easy, >> for my liking. > > But the command line options being pursued offer *NOTHING* that is > anything better. > *NOTHING* I beg to differ - for one thing, the command line is validated as it's entered, and an error is printed if necessary. That's much better feedback than fumbling a change in some file and being told about it sometime later. (I can vividly remember a case where several people from Sun had to listen to a customer complain bitterly and vehemently about SunCluster (during a meeting with other providers, etc) - there'd been a switch and not everthing had gone as expected. Once the meeting had concluded its actual purpose, their admin slunk up to us and admitted he'd forgotten to reverse a change he'd made in some config file. You don't forget these "changes" on a commandline) > > >>> A month or so ago, a few of us sat down with a group that does >>> professional system administration and they were quite in favour >>> of having configuration files that can be validated before loading >>> rather than having to do everything on the command line. Why? >> >> >>> Ever done "kill -9 - 1" by accident? >>> Or "kill -9 % 1"? >> >> actually no :-) (you mean as root? that's the only case where it would >> affect ilbd). I don't quite see how that pertains to this discussion, >> please elaborate so I can understand the concern. > > The point is that recovering from finger trouble on the command line can > be a whole lot harder than recovering from typing an address wrong and > going "oops" as you review the configuration before applying it. I think we'll just have to disagree here - I find that it more natural to use command-line editing to fix a command than to go back to a file. > The above isn't about whether those "kill" things affect ilb, it's > whether or not you reboot the box by accident or kill init or not. if ilbadm had "powers" similar to kill, maybe I'd agree. as it is, I don't think the comparison applies. Michael -- Michael Schuster http://blogs.sun.com/recursion Recursion, n.: see 'Recursion'
