-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Yes, they aren't free softwares but they are the most killer ones on unixes. I was frustated on Debian machine, configuring mutt, until I hit thit simple command:-) apt-get source pine;
rrs On Thu, 08 Apr 2004 00:36:09 +0530 Sandip Bhattacharya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [For the proud Pine and Pico users out there. ;) - Sandip] > > http://www.asty.org/articles/20010702pine.html > > When Non-Free is "Free Enough" > by Chris Allegretta > > The University of Washington's Pine mailer. A popular piece of software, > indeed, as is its editor component, Pico. So much so that most people > turn a blind eye to its license: a license, I feel, that is as bad as > anything that has ever come out of Redmond. > > Virtually every major GNU/Linux distribution ships binaries of Pine and > Pico with the notable exception of Debian. After all these programs are > veritable mainstays of the Unix world. Ironically, according to the > legal terms of the program, Debian may be the only distribution legally > allowed to distribute the program! > > [...] > > Why do I feel this licenses is as bad as Microsoft's licenses? I don't, > I think it's worse. With any commercial license, you do not ever expect > to see or have rights over the source code to the software. In the case > of Pine, users are lulled into thinking they have rights to do what they > want with the software, but really they don't. And if UW makes the > license more proprietary or simply stops updating it, there's nothing > they can do about it. > > So, what can we do? For one thing, stop referring to Pine and Pico as > Open Source! And if you can't handle that (and you know who you are), at > least don't nominate them for awards specifically for Open Source > programs! Also do not lump Pine and Pico in with other GPL covered > programs on web pages or when discussing Free Software, as this may > confuse people into thinking that Pine and Pico are in fact also Free > Software programs, which they are not. > > [...] > > > > -- > Sandip Bhattacharya > sandip (at) puroga.com > Puroga Technologies Pvt. Ltd. > Work: http://www.puroga.com Home: http://www.sandipb.net > > GPG: 51A4 6C57 4BC6 8C82 6A65 AE78 B1A1 2280 A129 0FF3 > > > _______________________________________________ > ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd > Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ - -- Ritesh Raj Sarraf RESEARCHUT (www.researchut.com) Happy GNU/Linux user since 1998 GPG Key ID: 0x04F130BC - ------ FORTUNE ! "Since it's a foregone conclusion that Microsoft will be littering its XML with pointers to Win32-based components, the best that can be said about its adoption of XML is that it will make it easier for browsers and applications on non-Windows platforms to understand which parts of the document it must ignore." -- Nicholas Petreley, "Computerworld", 3 September, 2001 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAdGM/4Rhi6gTxMLwRAkprAKC0vcINaDFp2PzF1TLpYipnJr3JmQCgkArd 8azi5BaWp42el1g+GujcW+I= =BtBj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/