On Saturday 07 January 2006 11:00, Viksit Gaur wrote: > > Really, you jest. Expensive? Buying an assembled PC > for about 10k, which would be much more flexible and > powerful than a thin client, and then spending maybe a > 1000 bucks on networking. pffft, expense isn't the > problem here. > If you can buy an assembled PC for 10K then have you ever thought how much a thin client with not that much of hardware would cost? Also individual PCs might be more "flexible", but they also need maintenance and management, which in turn costs money. So yes expenses is a problem here no matter how many "pffft's" you do. BTW if money is not the problem here and then what is? Why don't more SOHO's use more PCs. Don't tell me they don't need them.
> > What kind of marketing are we talking about here > anyway? TV ads exhorting people to go buy google pcs? > I mean, having nirodh ads on TV is one thing, and > asking people to buy thin clients just because > google's made them is something else... > Looks like you have a very selective liking for advertisements. Never saw computer related ads eh? :) > > Whoa whoa. Hang on there a minute. "HELP"? I'm not > sure how old you are, but do you even know the sorry > state of affairs in colleges and schools in the > country? Not only will they not allow their students > to experiment with computers, they will impose severe > penalties on those who have the temerity to do so. > Talk about open source and the hacking paradigm. You > think MIT would be the mecca for hackers if they'd > left their PDPs and other machines to the technicians, > who had the power to expel people for displaying an > interest in computers? > Well don't know which school you want to go where they will allow people to screw with their systems. No one would allow it. In school we used PCs for our project works and then in the med school used them to find additional references, on a custom made program that had important books scanned for us. We could find what we were looking for in the program, read a bit and then get print outs to read them thoroughly later. The problem we faced was that there were only two PCs with this program installed. If the college could connect to a central server with thin clients working, then it would have HELPED us to get easier to access to that important database. One of my friends who is a teacher in a management college also talks about a similar program. This program has database of loads of companies and students use it for their projects but once again the lack of terminals is a problem. Don't even think about buying more desktops and installing more than one copy. Each license of this programs is leased at a cost of 1.25 lacs per year!!! These simple things can be done in easier ways by using thin clients. They don't need machines good enough to play "The Sims" or churn code for them. They just want to use them for research and projects :) > Fact is, people graduating today - a large majority > anyway - have no idea about computers save the fact > that word processing is the same as MS Word, > presentations mean Powerpoint, and viruses and trojans > are something we just have to live with - things which > can't be dealt with. How many people who use windows > (students, so called people who 're aiming to be the > techological elite of tomorrow) even know how to use > the registry in order to see if they might have a > trojan on their machine? Ok, so maybe I've exaggerated > a bit - but this goes for most cases. > ...and your point being? How will thin clients worsen this problem? The only thing it will do is help schools/colleges the way I explained above. I seriously don't understand. You want schools to install more desktops and then tell their students..."Hey, here you go. Go ahead...screw with registry?". Ridiculous!!! > And considering this state of affairs, you've got > potential computer science majors using terminals > which restrict them even further? Ok, so citrix > machines and the like are pretty popular - I've used > them myself, and done a rather large number of > (*interesting*) things with them - much to the concern > of a large number of sysadmins. But when you want to > find out if you can break the encryption and capture > keystrokes off someone else in your lab, and maybe > surprise them - thin clients are going to be > hardpressed. > No one is saying you to install them in engineering colleges or from where people will major in computer science. I think you should look the other way and see that there is more to this world then just encryptions and capturing keystrokes. This "more to the world" is where these clients can help. Just because this technology will not allow you to break into someone else's property for "fun" doesn't mean that it will not help anyone. Regards, Abhay _______________________________________________ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
