Dear Karanji,I don't understand why you want suppress the open voices .Do you think that only few people have eligibility to talk on the subject.Others have no authority to discuss any thing.If LUG has any predefined regulations let me know.Really I don't know that if any body comes with any question at LUG you ask him to go to lawyer. Even I don't know good English,I don't know your posting styles . Do you Immediately through me out of discussion.or You call me fool or troll if I have question.You don't reply some one else internet will reply. If you think it is waste of time please don't reply. I shall post this question directly to Linux for you or some where else on internet .I don't fear to ask question.Some one on internet will reply me.Please dont bother too much.If ILUG D tells me i will opt out from this list.In any case i will learn posting styles and improve my english. My research on the GPL in regards with trademarks in respect to the question is this. Please read the link carefully http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-system-distribution-guidelines.html There are Three paragraphs under the caption Trademarks and they are very clear and they are part of Guidelines for Free System Distributions and not guide lines for making commercial distribution or a proprietary OS out of GPLed software .Please make note of this point .Please note that you cannot make commercial distribution out of Guidelines for Free System Distributions .These guidelines don't tell you violate freedom given at http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html .It states that Similarly, the distribution itself may hold particular trademarks. It is not a problem for these marks to be in the distribution, as long as they can be readily removed without losing the system's functionality. It means that let RHEL provide menu in the system itself that with click of mouse trade mark can be removed readily without affecting system's functionality and user can use it and distribute it. You cannot ask user to do it. It says readily means readily users should be able to remove it. Because paragraph two says In extreme cases, these restrictions may effectively render the program non free .It is unfair for someone to ask you to remove a trademark from modified code if that trademark is scattered all throughout the original source. As long as the conditions are reasonable, however, free system distributions may include these programs, either with or without the trademarks. But you cannot use trademarks to make system non-free as per GPL. Holding the trademark is different and however, free system distributions may include these programs, either with or without the trademarks. but redhat making RHEL non free and commercial is different. which I feel is the violation of GPL in two counts one at http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-system-distribution-guidelines.html. That is not allowing redistribution and making commercial distribution RHEL using all GPLed software violating Guidelines for Free System Distributions. These are my views .may be correct may not be .Let us debate with cool and find out the real outcome. Immediately jumping to conclusions is not my way of thinking. This is only a debate. M.S.Yatnatti KPN UNLIMITED Corporate Office:No.18/6, Executive chambers, Cunningham Road, Bangalore – 560052. WEBSITE WWW.KPNUNLIMITED.ORG --- On Sun, 10/5/08, Karanbir Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Karanbir Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [ilugd] Is it illegal to redistribute RHEL? Open Letter To Linux For You India print Magzine India To: "The Linux-Delhi mailing list" <ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org> Date: Sunday, October 5, 2008, 3:55 AM M.S.Yatnatti CEO KPN UNLIMITD wrote: > Dear Harish PIllay > I am educating myself about four kinds of freedom, for the users of the software as per GPL .Freedom number two Redhat does not want to give user for RHEL Linux Distribution .The > freedom to redistribute copies so you can help your neighbour (freedom > 2). Mr Yatnatti, if you feel so strongly about an issue you dont either understand, not have done any research on, I would highly recommend you speak to a laywer and take the matter to court. Ranting on a list about what you envisage is a GPL violation isnt going to help at all. Also, I've stayed away from this conversation so far as a matter of interest. However, this is just getting silly. I think Sudhanwa hit the nail on the head with his post. Yatnatti does not know or comprehend the difference between Copyright, Trademark, Licensing or the ethos of Open Source. Disclaimer: I am a member of the CentOS Devteam -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ GnuPG Public Key : http://www.karan.org/publickey.asc _______________________________________________ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ _______________________________________________ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
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