On Thursday 05 Mar 2009, shirish wrote:
> [snip]
> @ Raj Mathur . Its your prerogative to do whatever suing you want to
> for as you my 'persistent combative, militant licensing'
>
> If it was an attempt to intimidate me or an attempt at humor then
> both are unfortunately lost for neither makes sense to me.

Sorry to hear that.  I'll leave it as an exercise to the reader to 
determine whether it was meant to be humour or intimidation.

> Let's say that shirish was not just shirisha...@gmail.com but
> shirisha...@redhat.com or shirisha...@ubuntu.com (Please remember
> this is all hypothetical)
>
> and let's say redhat (or ubuntu) as a matter of policy on their SMTP
> Server puts a signature which gets added to every mail something on
> the lines of
>
> a. It may have intellectual property so the reader shouldn't disclose
> it. Disclosing the same may lead to suing.
> b. If due to advice or help given in the mail, if there is any damage
> to a person's computer/data etc. the company wouldn't be held liable.
>
> From a company's stand point it may be the right thing to do.

I'm glad to inform you that you're not being singled out just because 
you post from a gmail address: quasi-legal crap is explicitly forbidden 
on most mailing lists.  There have been enough cases on, e.g. the 
Linux-India mailing lists (and AFAIR this one too) where people posting 
with corporate disclaimers and legal notices have been politely (or 
maybe not so politely) asked to post from another address.  Some of 
those people were from the top companies in the FOSS arena.  Ask anyone 
who's been around for a few years on public (specially FOSS-related) 
mailing lists and you'll hear the same answer: legal notices of any 
sort in individual messages are just not on.  I believe you have got 
the same response from other people on other mailing lists in India 
too.

Now that we've hopefully got over the victimisation issue, let me 
reiterate the points I'd made: What if two different people post to the 
list under incompatible licences?  What becomes of the list archives?  
Who is liable for a breach of licence?  Who is required to enforce the 
licence?  Can the archives be copied for backup purposes?  Can the 
archives be posted on the Internet?  Can you transfer them to your 
friend on CD?  Can you sell that CD for Rs. 2.50?  How about for Rs. 
2,50,000?  How do you share the revenue if a licence demands it?  What 
if one licence demands revenue sharing and another demands no revenue?  
Will you be willing to help someone who wants to sell the ILUGD 
archives for, say, Rs 15 (DVD cost) to remove all your messages and 
quotes of your messages before she sells it?

Frankly I doubt if there can be any answers to these questions, since 
the whole concept of having parts of individual documents in a 
heterogeneous aggregation under separate, possibly mutually exclusive 
licences is meaningless.  It'd be a bit like permitting each editor of 
a wiki page to specify a licence for each character and word that she 
adds/deletes/modifies, and about as fruitful.

Regards,

-- Raju
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