Jason, I agree with you. When money becomes involved for something like this (bootleg), it's very questionable territory. Might 'sound' like the charitable thing to do but in order to properly conduct something like that - the owner's of those songs need to be completely behind it. Bootlegs are bootlegs. They are meant to be heard and appreciated by fans until something more legal takes precedence. The whole money thing is a little risky (I think). That's my two cents. C
"Jason K." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: thought i'd contribute my 2 cents (no pun intended...well...OK, maybe a little ) to this issue. but first, belated thanks to emily and kenard for one of the best live concerts i've EVER had the pleasure of hearing without actually being in the audience! takes me back to the incredible pittsburgh show - it's like an early Christmas present, being able to relive it again and again! so many, many thanks... re: money for the recording - the way i look at it, if this exact recording became available commercially via the innocence mission's record label, 95% of us (probably more) would buy the disc. we wouldn't even think twice about it - the "official" recording would be added to our innocence mission collection as soon as we could possibly purchase it, replacing our "bootlegged" version in a heartbeat. as much as the recording industry's individual lawsuits irk me, it doesn't change the fact that there's something special about an official, commercial release - the artwork and layout, liner notes, band thanks, CD design...it's like you get a piece of the artist along with the music, which is clearly missing from downloaded recordings. that being said, this is the only recording of its kind that IS available to us die-hard IM fans (as of now, at least). and since that's the case, i don't see a need or reason to offer payment to the band - seems like it would just complicate matters and possibly create an awkward situation. however, i'm not a part of the band and my mind-reading abilities have been on the decline recently. either way, until guilt overtakes me (doubtful, even though i am Catholic), i will continue to THOROUGHLY enjoy that recording...and i can't wait to download the individual tracks (thanks in advance for your work on this project, keith)! take care, jason --- cliff holt wrote: > I would let the band decide how they'd want to > handle it. > Would they want their music being shared within our > group? > We don't own the music. We just own a bootlegged > copy from a sold out show where at least only one of > us paid admission. > > Your investigation should be direct correspondence > with the band. > > Emily Druchunas wrote: > hey folks...this has always been a touchy issue. > perhaps that's why > kenard was hesitant about doing a mass posting thats > why i've only sent > it out to this list. (how fair that is to the rest > of the innocence > mission fans out there on other lists..i don't know) > but this is the list > i'm a part of , the most involved with and the > smaller list of the few > i've been told. you can rationalize it either way > and i've come to the > same conclusion: this is music that's been played > for an audience and > captured and passed along to those people that paid > for the concert and > those who could not attend due to living far away > who would have > otherwise tried to have made the show. on one hand i > think karen, don, > and mike would be flattered because this is their > music being spread > around and enjoyed and they may be alright with this > because this wasn't > a recording that they have marketed and hoped to > make money > on...therefore we aren't taking away customers. > also, it was a sold out > show, so they made as much as they could from their > performance. on the > other hand it seems that all enjoyment should be > payed back in some way. > money is always a consideration, but there are so > many other ways to be > paid back that are of no monetary value. kind words > and acknowledgement > being one. your talents offered being another. we > could all pitch in and > donate money to one of their charity causes. i just > think handing over > money to the band is not the best way to clear a > conscience or to > properly thank them for their talents...however > small they are, they are > just happy to see our faces at their shows. i think > a donation to their > charity is something i will look into. we can look > at it as a "pay it > forward"....do something good in return for someone > else.anyone have any > other thoughts to add? this is a good subject...and > one worthy of many > opinions. ~emily > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Fretting that your Hotmail account may expire > because you forgot to sign > in enough? 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