Why not! Me too.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of ## Dusty Carden
> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 1999 1:31 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Rule and 5.04
>
>
> It is sad that we have to deal with SPAM like we do, however
> I have found it almost a necessity in running a public mail
> server.
>
> I actually considered opening up either a mailing list or
> a bulletin board forum just for that purpose.  However
> there were a couple of factors which concerned me.
>
> One, as I point out to anyone that I assist with this, what
> is one man's SPAM may be another man's treasure.  What
> I filter may be too restrictive for others.  And I would not want
> to get into a situation where a big debate was held regarding
> whether something should be considered as SPAM or not.
> I only filter stuff that is taken from actual SPAMS received
> here on our servers or picked up from NANAE however
> this does occasionally mean throwing the baby out with the
> bathwater.
>
> Two, such a forum would have to be private and access restricted
> only to known admins that were interested in stopping such garbage.
> Once any known SPAMMER got on the list or got access to
> the global rules then it would be easy for them to get around those
> rules.  Or make myself and others in the forum open game for some
> SPAM slinging.
>
> I am still open for suggestions on this.  I have only implemented the
> filtering here to work with the current Imail setup.  There are
> several ways this could be improved and hopefully Ipswitch will one
> day address this issue a little closer.  However what is available does
> work pretty well.
>
> Of the options I would like to see if the ability to send filtered mail
> to a holding area.  An administrator could then examine the filtered
> messages and decide whether they are valid or not and be able to
> selectively send these messages on to their destination transparent
> to the user.  This method would be better than utilizing one of the
> systems such as MAPS in that it would allow the administrator to
> decide what mail they do not want to receive.
>
> Anyone that ever used Paul Sica's SPAM filter on IMS mail server
> is probably familiar with the Trash bin and the ability to move valid
> messages
> to the Incoming folder and have the processed normally if they were
> caught by mistake or for some other reason.  Just one of those things
> on my wish list.
>
> Enough babbling.  I will send all that have requested my setup today.
>
> Dusty
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kevin Coveney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 1999 9:55 AM
> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Rule and 5.04
>
>
> With all this interest, has anyone considered joining together
> to produce a "master spam list rule file" that we could all contribute
> to and share.
>
> Might help everyone, and relieve Dusty of all the responiblity ;)
>
> -Kevin
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Grant Griffith
> > Sent: Thursday, June 17, 1999 10:49 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Rule and 5.04
> >
> >
> > Me too Dusty.  I set-up the one for the new virus, but would be
> > interested in getting a big start on the other virus's and spammers.
> >
> > Grant Griffith
> >
> > ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> > From: "Vaughn Thurman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:35:10 -0400
> >
> > >Hey Dusty!
> >     I'd love to have a look at that too.  Your stuff seems pretty well
> > thought out and I would definitely be interested in what you
> are doing to
> > block the spammo boys.  I have not gotten in to the rules yet and
> > that would
> > be helpful in a big way.
> > -V
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: ## Dusty Carden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 1999 6:06 PM
> > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Rule and 5.04
> >
> >
> > > I will try to get something together for you this afternoon.
> > > Then I will e-mail it to you off list if that is okay.  My views of
> > > SPAM can appear a little warped compared to some Admins.
> > >
> > > I am actually working on a web site with the layout I have.  It is
> > > nothing special but it works for me.  From what I have seen it
> > > is working for a few others too.
> > >
> > > Dusty
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Wayne Maw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 1999 1:31 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Rule and 5.04
> > >
> > >
> > > Would anyone mind sharing the rules.ima file for a good all round spam
> > > filter?
> > >
> > > (They keep driving me nut's with user complaints)
> > >
> > >
> > > Wayne.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: John Henderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: 16 June 1999 19:33
> > > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Rule and 5.04
> > >
> > >
> > > > Won't work.  I had to create a batch file to copy the spam
> > file to each
> > > > individual mailbox or domain.  Not very pleasant way of doing
> > it but it
> > > > worked.  Thanks to Dusty, here in this group, I now have good
> > anti-spam
> > > > setup.  IPSwitch needs to create something much better.
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Kurt A. Butzin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 1999 11:12 AM
> > > > Subject: [IMail Forum] Rule and 5.04
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Has anyone been successful at getting the rules to work
> system wide
> > with
> > > > > 5.04.  I have no problem getting them to work on a domain
> by domain
> > > basis,
> > > > > but no luck putting the rules file in the top directory to
> > be used by
> > > the
> > > > > whole system as in the manual.
> > > > >
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