I'd say you've run into a lot of bad software.  Even in the custom apps we 
write -- and we're usually on too tight of a budget to do extensive error 
checking -- we'd wouldn't let something like this happen.  If you have a 
program writing data to disk, it should either: A) check that there's 
sufficient disk space in advance, or B) check that the write was successful 
afterwards.  If an error condition arises, it posts an error somehow (the NT 
application log would be the obvious choice, but email or a pop-up message 
would be an excellent addition), and then exits without damaging the existing 
data.  That's standard programming procedure.

My primary purpose in writing was to look for help, rather than complain, but 
I think the complaint is very legitimate.  Faced with a space shortage, IMail 
destroyed the contents of any active IMAP mailbox.  That's a horrendous 
outcome, and there is no way to blame it on operator error.  Let's suppose 
that disk space monitoring software had paged me at home Sunday night.  In 
the time it takes me to drive to the office, mailboxes are being wiped out 
left and right as effectively as any virus might wish.

In the real world, disasters sometimes strike, such as disk space vanishing 
overnight.  Software -- especially software intended to run on a server -- 
should always handle error conditions gracefully.

Ben

In a message dated 11/8/99 1:26:59 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
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<< Subj:     Re: [IMail Forum] Lost messages from zero disk space
 Date:  11/8/99 1:26:59 PM Pacific Standard Time
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 > Let me restate that:
 >
 > If IMail runs out of disk space, it certainly must stop storing new
 messages,
 > and it probably should generate an error message.  What happens
 instead is
 > that IMail kills existing messages, and does not generate an error
 message.
 >
 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 >
 > In a message dated 11/8/99 11:37:50 AM Pacific Standard Time,
 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 >
 > << Subj:     Re: [IMail Forum] Lost messages from zero disk space
 >  Date:  11/8/99 11:37:50 AM Pacific Standard Time
 >  From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Salvage)
 >  Sender:    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 >
 >  ----- Original Message -----
 >  From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 >  To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 >  Sent: 08 November 1999 09:17
 >  Subject: [IMail Forum] Lost messages from zero disk space
 >
 >
 >  > If IMail just kills the message files when disk space runs out,
 that
 >  strikes
 >  > me as a pretty disasterous bug.
 >
 >  erm colour me uninformed...but where should iMail store the mail if
 >  there's no disk space?
 
 Again, at the risk of appearing facetious...that would indicate to me
 that there was a bug in the operator and not the software. I have yet to
 find a software package that, when confronted with zero disk space, will
 finish processing, and shut down in an orderly fashion, after first
 informing the operator that "there appears to be a problem and would he
 be a nice chap and sort it out, sharpish like." Surely the operator
 should maintain SOME sense of responsibility for the maintenance of his
 server?
 
 As a fix, I suggest running MRTG, pull out the MIB's for available disk
 space, and monitor the HDD's yourself, every 5 minutes.
 
 /wiZZ
 
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