And on a further note, if it is just a non RFC compliant mail client that is
causing the problem, then some disgruntled client that knows of the bug can
easily cause havok on the mail server, locking it up hourly, daily, weekly,
whenever if he so desires. Or for that matter, any hacker out there that is
aware of this bug can easily do the same.

So, maybe IPswitch should look at the problem as if it were hackers out
there exploiting the WEAKness in the mail SMTP Auth function. Cause you know
for a fact hackers will do whatever they can to crash something.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Scott Bishop
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2000 3:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] SMTP Auth Lockin Up?


Well that may be what I need to do then if IPSwitch cant fix it. I know what
sendmail is, and I can just convert my current box that Imail is runnin on
and eat the grand that I paid for Imail. Thank god I didnt upgrade as it
appears that 6.x has the same problem.

Im not quite sure what switch is. Any info you can give me (URL's, Tech
Notes) would be cool.

Also any information you need from me (Signed Partition for SMTP Auth Prob)
I'll be happy to contribute. I wouldnt mind getting my 1000 bux back.


Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Anthony Santen
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2000 3:47 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] SMTP Auth Lockin Up?


We have fixed the symptom, but not the problem.

The PROBLEM is that IMAILSEC.DLL locks up
- Ipswitch insists that this is caused by the external mail programs not
being RFC compliant, which is of course total BS.

As this problem cannot be solved without Ipswitch involvement, the symptom
can be fixed by installing a new MTA.

We have installed Sendmail-8.10 with Switch-2.0.0 on a Linux box.
Cost:
$99 for switch
$0 for sendmail
$300 for a small Pentium based machine with a network card to run Linux on.
12 person hours for setup and configuration


Result:
- We run approx 2500 users with a load average of about 300 active
connections at a time.  All using SMTP AUTH.  NO PROBLEMS

Message for Ipswitch:
Sorry IPSWITCH, but this, of course, conclusively proves that using the same
variety of mail clients, the problem disappears when using another MTA.
-GROW UP and admit that your MTA is broken.
- Then Fix it for customers who don't have the resources, knowledge or will
to install a 3rd party software to overcome a flaw in your software.
- HOW THE HELL CAN IT BE that a free piece of software works, and your
commercial software is UNSUPPORTED.  Your attitude towards this problem
makes me angry.  You should be ashamed of yourself.  Making customers pay
for a product which you full well know is broken. Just 'cause Microsoft does
this, doesn't mean that you can. BAD BAD BAD.

Anyone who needs SMTP AUTH and needs help with the setup of Switch, I'll
endeavour to help. (I'm keeping track of the hours, and sending IPSWITCH the
bill, attached to a lawyer)  Anyone who wants to contribute to this is
welcome to.  Let's not take this crap lying down.  Let's make them fix it,
or pay for the fix.

Anthony Santen


----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Bishop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2000 4:10 PM
Subject: [IMail Forum] SMTP Auth Lockin Up?


> I've read tons of complaints in here about SMTP Auth not authorizing after
a
> few days of being up. It's finally happeneing to me. Was there ever a
> resolution to this bug?
>
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