The news report said the issue originated over their, Harris & Real, bulk
Emailings. RBL looked into their optin/optout system and it did not meet
their standard. From the report it sounded like the RBL folks were looking
for a double optin confirmation. Based on that I believe that Egroups (to
include their acquisition Onelist) and most of the mailing list systems I've
seen would also fall that category. I believe the initial question came up
because several major email providers took note of the volume of Email they
were receiving from Harris & Real. It has the potential to write some
interesting law for the US. At present their is no legal standard for this
type of Email.
As a side note several of the major Email providers utilize the services of
both Harris & Real and RBL.
Kevin Childers
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2000 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] anti-virus solution
> If there hadn't been complaints, that is, if someone had not nominated
them
> due to complaints, they would not have been added to the RBL. Vixie
> doesn't operate like ORBS and do things arbitrarily -- at least, I have
> never seen them be arbitrary . . .
>
> At 10:33 AM 12/30/00 -0500, you wrote:
> > The folks at RBL and Harris & Real are in court over this. The RBL
> >folks do not like the opt-in set-up that Harris & Real use. They have a
> >multiple confirmation requirement that is in dispute. Harris & Real have
> >not had complaints but were placed there due to the volume of Email they
> >send.
> >
> >Kevin Childers
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Mike Nice" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 10:11 PM
> >Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] anti-virus solution
> >
> >
> > > >Our tests, and live production for several months now, indicate that
you
> > > >can safely delete based upon RBL, DUL, RSS, OSDUL, OSSRC & OSSOFT.
> > >
> > > I haven't found any test that can be deleted; Harris and Real are in
the
> > > RBL and many of our customers WANT to participate the Harris polls.
I'm
> > > sure they deserve to be on the RBL, but we've never had a complaint
from a
> > > customer that they couldn't unsubscribe from either Harris or Real.
> > >
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