At 10:59 12/02/01 -0700, you wrote:
>Daniel
>
>Here is the whole story. I would just like to start by saying that this is
>in no way how I would have desired to configure this system but it was an
>ugly necessity to get these users off of the crapy sendmail system they were
>on. Basically I have an IMail server configured as host mail.mydomain.com
>with a host alias for mydomain.com. On the sendmail system there also
>existed 48 host aliases for sub domains such as ant.mydomain.com. These
>host aliases work just the same as host aliases in IMail. The killer
>limitation that I ran into is that you can only have 25 host aliases with a
>max length of 255 characters on IMail. To get around this I stumbled across
>the following oddity with IMail. If I point the MX for ant.mydomain.com to
>the host mail.mydomain.com the server will receive mail for
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually it does not accept it for delivery at first
>but accepts the message for relay. When IMail goes to relay the message it
>does an MX lookup for ant.mydomain.com and receives direction back to it's
>self. I am theorizing that for some reason this prompts it do a local
>delivery with mydomain.com. At any rate that's what happens. The problem
>here is that host mail.mydomain.com must first accept the message for relay.
>Unless you want to open your system as an wide open relay you have another
>hurdle to cross. To get around this issue I setup a sendmail system to
>receive mail for ant.mydomain.com. I then pointed the MX for
>ant.mydomain.com to relay.relaysystem.com. You can configure sendmail in
>such a way as to have it "route" mail based on domain with out doing an MX
>lookup. Thus mail would come in from the Internet to the relay system and
>then be routed to the IMail box. I then only had to add the IP address of
>the relay system to the allow table on the IMail system. But I now had
>another problem. I had changed the MX record for ant.mydomain.com to point
>to the relay system and not directly to the IMail system. This broke the
>functionality of IMail relaying messages for [EMAIL PROTECTED] back to
>its self. To fix this I had to tweak the DNS host that IMail uses for
>lookups. I had to make that host report back that the MX for
>ant.mydomain.com directed to mail.mydomain.com. Obviously this DNS host can
>not be the same host that the rest of the world looks to for MX records for
>ant.mydomain.com or you break the whole thing over again. As you can see
>this is very elaborate and not a preferred way of configuring a mail system.
>If this helps anyone out - Great. If I had my way I would ask that IMail
>expand the capability to allow at least a greater number of host aliases (50
>aliases with 1000 character max). In a perfect world I would ask for
>unlimited host aliases configured in a text file. Perhaps hostaliases.txt.
>
>Jeff
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Donnelly
>Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 8:54 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [IMail Forum]
>
>
>Jeff,
>
>I have no particular need, myself, but others here might like to know. But I
>guess I'll let them ask. I sort of figured there would be a bunch of DNS
>stuff to do (each hostname would have to have an MX that points to the IMail
>host). When you mentioned Sendmail, that gave me a clue that tells me how it
>is redirected to the IMail domain.
>
>That also means Yuri's answer was correct, IMail does not use a wildcard
>(*.domain.name) in its Alias field.
>
>Daniel Donnelly
>________________________________________________________
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jeff Madison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 7:30 PM
>Subject: RE: [IMail Forum]
>
>
> > You are correct. It does not work with out a great deal of magic. If you
> > are interested in the whole story let me know. I'll just say that it
> > requires a sendmail gateway and tweaking your DNS servers.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Donnelly
> > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 3:00 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum]
> >
> >
> > Jeff,
> >
> > Describe what you mean by 'work'! Do you mean that the mail was actually
> > delivered to the users account?
> >
> > The only way IMail might accept email with a 'different' hostname or
>alias,
> > is when SMTP Security is set to 'Relay for Anyone'. With that, IMail will
> > accept any email, regardless of the username or domain name, but no
> > guarantee that IMail can actually deliver it to the destination. If it
> > cannot, it will eventually bounce back to the sender. If your test message
> > has not reached the user, I think you will find it in the Queue, with
> > multiple tries, or even 'looping' back to itself (depending on DNS/MX
>data).
> >
> > A test here with different Relay settings (Addresses) showed that IMail
> > would not use the '*' character as a wildcard for the Alias. The message
>was
> > not accepted by SMTP ('not a gateway' response was observed) .
> >
> > Daniel Donnelly
> > ________________________________________________________
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jeff Madison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 11:59 AM
> > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum]
> >
> >
> > > This is interesting because I did and it works great.
> > >
> > > Jeff
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Yuri Levenfeld
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 4:38 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum]
> > >
> > >
> > > no, you can't
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jeff Madison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 3:40 PM
> > > Subject: [IMail Forum]
> > >
> > >
> > > > Does anyone know if you can use an '*' in the host alias field. I am
> > > > setting up a mail host for mail.domain.com and want the server to
>accept
> > > > mail for [EMAIL PROTECTED] I want to put the following in the
> > > host
> > > > alias field:
> > > >
> > > > *domain.com
> > > >
> > > > Jeff
> > > >
> > > >
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