Jim,

Worked for me! Do you see 2 'Sent' mailboxes when using Web Msg? You should.
Web creates one (or will if you set preferences to keep a copy and send one
to yourself)  and OE does, too, but it names it 'Sent Items' which web shows
only as 'Sent'. I see 2, one empty (the Web one) and one that just went up
by one, when I did the test.

Daniel Donnelly
________________________________________________________

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Jones, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Invisible mail may be IMail bug after all


> One other strange thing is that when I send an email where I've BCC'd
> someone, it never shows up in my sent box in Outlook Express...  but it is
> there when i check the web-interface.
>
> Jim
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Cyr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 12:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Invisible mail may be IMail bug after all
>
>
> We use Imail 5.07, OE 5.x, 100% IMAP accts...  and experience the problem
> occasionally (A couple of messages a month). Usually it's incoming junk
mail
> or mail with many, many To: addresses. Never had this problem with OE 4.x
>
> Sorry to say that I can't point to quotes and/or commas as the culprit.
Mail
> that was invisible to Ben below appeared normally for me. (OE 5.5)
>
> Tom Cyr
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dan Shadix" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 11:49 AM
> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Invisible mail may be IMail bug after all
>
>
> I use Outlook 2000 and IMAP against an IMail 6 server with all patches and
> have never experienced this invisible mail problem.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jim Jones, Jr.
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 8:57 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Invisible mail may be IMail bug after all
>
>
> That's funny, because that message shows up for me.  I am using OE 5.5
> (IMAP, no syncronizing) and IMail 6.06a.
>
> JIm
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "IMain Admin at BC Web" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 6:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Invisible mail may be IMail bug after all
>
>
> > Hey Jim,
> >
> > Do you realize that when you post your mail to this list, your messages
> are invisible to me?  It's the comma in "Jones, Jr." that
> > kills the message.  Ironically, a message I sent out earlier today had
the
> phrase "invisible" (with the quotes) in the subject line,
> > and it also came up invisible.  The only I am now seeing these messages
> (including yours) is because I went to the server and
> > directly edited the mail.mbx file to remove anything causing a problem
> (like your comma).
> >
> > Let's start by seeing if we're sharing the same problem: what protocol
do
> you use for your clients to access IMail?  All of my
> > problems have been linked to IMAP, although someone else wrote to me
> claiming the same problem with POP3.
> >
> > Second, look at the headers of your "invisible" messages and see if
there
> are "odd" characters in the From:, To:, CC:, or Subject
> > lines.  A comma would be one problem, a quote, backslash, or parenthesis
> could also be a problem.  If you have access to your IMail
> > server, you can directly edit the main.mbx file to see if the
"invisible"
> messages become visible.
> >
> > I wish some more people would speak up.  I know I've received a few
> messages over the last couple of weeks, but I don't have a list.
> >
> > Ben
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Jim Jones Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 5:30 PM
> > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Invisible mail may be IMail bug after all
> >
> >
> > > OK, so, I have been asking about this for a couple of years and these
> were
> > > my first suspicions... everyone (including Ipswitch & Microsoft
people)
> > > blamed Outlook (express or otherwise)...
> > >
> > > I hope that Ipswitch is listening to this, because this has been along
> time
> > > in the waiting for it to get fixed !
> > >
> > > Thanks you guys for finally pointing the finger to someone who might
> > > actually fix it !
> > >
> > > Jim
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Scott Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 7:09 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Invisible mail may be IMail bug after all
> > >
> > >
> > > > > IMAP: 11:21:46 [rx]  ENVELOPE ("Tue, 3 Apr 2001 10:57:00 -0500"
> > > > > "Re: [IMail Forum] invisible mail" ((NIL NIL ""Jim
> > > > > Jones" "bcw4.bcwebhost.net")) ((NIL NIL "IMail_Forum-
> > > > > owner" "list.ipswitch.com")) ((NIL
> > > > > NIL "IMail_Forum" "list.ipswitch.com")) ((NIL NIL
> > > > > "IMail_Forum" "list.ipswitch.com")) NIL NIL NIL
> > > "<007501c0bc56$b81076f0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>")
> > > > > RFC822.SIZE 6950 UID 973206050 FLAGS () INTERNALDATE "3-Apr-2001
> > > > > 07:50:00 -0800")
> > > >
> > > > Here's my take on this.  It looks like IMail *IS* choking on the
comma
> in
> > > the E-mail address, and is causing the problem with the "invisible
> > > messages".
> > > >
> > > > It looks like the part of the log right after the subject should be
a
> > > parsed version of the E-mail address, in the format '( "user name",
> > > "something", "username", "domain" )'.  However, when there is a comma
in
> the
> > > user name, it appears that it chokes, and gets the username from the
> very
> > > first character of the "From" address (the quote).  So, it thinks the
> E-mail
> > > address in this case is '"Jim
> > > >  [EMAIL PROTECTED]'.
> > > >
> > > > >IMAP: 11:21:46 [db] PARSE ERROR: hr=2148322516
> > > >
> > > > This would make sense, as the From: address is obviously malformed
(by
> > > IMail), as it has a space and a quote in it, neither of which are
> allowed.
> > > >
> > > > I haven't looked at IMAP log files before, so I can't say much with
> > > certainty.  But, it looks suspiciously like we've found the culpit,
and
> it
> > > would explain why all works well with the same headers using another
> mail
> > > server.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >                       -Scott
> > > >
> > > > Declude: Anti-virus and Anti-spam solutions for IMail.
> > > http://www.declude.com
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