If I may offer a comment. Properly done you can depreciate an asset (i.e. a
server devalued to $0 as a business expense) for tax purposes. Then
refurbish it and deduct the cost (parts & labor) as a business expense. You
now have another asset that you can depreciate all over again. I failed
accounting, but I'm learning a little from the Life School of Business now.
While this will not get you a new Dell Power Edge server it will get you one
that is good enough to serve as a mail gateway or virus box to reduce the
over all work load on your actual mail server. It's a nickel and dime
solution, but then who can afford a new Dell Power edge server?
Kevin Childers
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew P. Kaplan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 4:31 PM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] webservice crashes can't upgrade
> >>
> You have to accept that not everyone is affluent enough to dedicate an
> entire machine solely to email,
> >>
>
> I have TWO machines devoted to mail. And I'm a cheap b@st@rd. I have an
smtp
> server running IMGATE. Software was free the box was an old pentium with
64
> megs of RAM. Cost FREE. Oh I had to buy a new nic card. So the SMTP mail
> server cost me $60 buck. My IMAIL machine is a pentium 300 with 128 megs
of
> RAM and two 10 gigs IDE drive using Promise raid cards. Total cost $800.
>
>
> I would much rather have a bunch of clones running that one EXPENSIVE
compaq
> or dell.
>
> Andrew P. Kaplan, CNE, MCSE+Internet, MCT, CCNA, CCDA
> CyberShore, Inc. -- Premium Internet Services -- http://www.cshore.com
>
>
> Since we cannot know all that there is to be known about anything, we
> ought to know a little about everything.
> -- Blaise Pascal (1623 - 1662)
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of MIke Mckay
> > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 3:57 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] webservice crashes can't upgrade
> >
> >
> > You have to accept that not everyone is affluent enough to dedicate an
> > entire machine solely to email, working on this model and taking service
> > redundancy, data redundancy and back-ups into account, to do basic
hosting
> > with ( email, www, DNS & SQL ) you would need 8 servers, 8 raid cards,
16
> > scsi drives buckets of ram and several tape drives not to mention the
> > licensing if microsoft is the OS of choice.
> >
> > So many people will be running multiple services duplicated over
> > fewer boxes
> > especially if in a co-located enviroment which may charge by the server
or
> > by the "U" of rack space, and although imail may be austensively
> > a ram based
> > product the applications it is co-existing with may not, and not paying
> > attention to things such as the swap file will mean the time between
> > complete rebuilds or image redeployment reduces significantly, increases
> > manpower costs and service downtime.
> >
> > And if a server has to be taken down because SQL has fragmented the
drives
> > to a point where it seriously affects performance and the machine
> > has to be
> > taken offline then wouldn't affect Imail if due to financial
restrictions
> > they were both on that server ?
> >
> > I think it is slightly unfair to condescend in such a fashion towards
> > Daniel, for people on a budget I feel it is a valid and purposefull
thread
> > that will under the aforementioned circumstances aid the reliability of
an
> > Imail system.
> >
> > Mike A.B.S.O
> >
> > (lutely no letters after my name, wot a dunce)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Len Conrad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 7:14 PM
> > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] webservice crashes can't upgrade
> >
> >
> > > Daniel
> > >
> > > Can you explain this swap file business? A mail server shouldn�t be
> > > swapping at all or extremely little.
> > >
> > > What has ipswitch found in increasing the hardly used swap file to 3X
> > > memory size makes Imail work better?
> > >
> > > Len
> > >
> > > http://MenAndMice.com/DNS-training
> > > http://BIND8NT.MEIway.com : ISC BIND 8.2.4 for NT4 & W2K
> > > http://IMGate.MEIway.com : Build free, hi-perf, anti-abuse
> > mail gateways
> > >
> > >
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