Now I do have the luxury of dictating to a corporate environment, but... My biggest problem with SPAM, as I've said over and over, is the cost to the receivers mail host. I don't care if a user wants to receive all SPAM sent to them, it still costs me money to receive it. Ironically enough, it costs me money to throw it away as SPAM (capacity to receive extra messages, Declude, administration of Declude, etc.). For the ISPs, you should make it very clear to your customers that eventually their cavalier treatment of SPAM will cost them more money for the service in the future and will cost them mail performance now.
Todd -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of MIke Mckay Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 5:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] ORBZ shut down - ok.. Lets beat a dead horse to death one more round then snip this thread The problem with spam policy is it is very individual. Some people are very annoyed by one single "non" solicited email, others don't mind and look at the subject before deciding whether to bin or read, and there is the unfathomable middle ground that is only offended by spam that they are not interested in. (I think these people are waiting for psychic profile building spam servers that know what sites you have been to and sends you a tailored spam content). All points aside the fact of the matter remains that there is no distinction from the spammers viewpoint as to whether an email address is corporate or personal so the overriding problem above all else is the problem of porn spammers and this if any sector of spamming should be tackled first by the industry and prioritised above all else, possibly by a similar system to orbz but for specifically to stop porn spamming. Quote of the day (source unknown) The internet is a bit like having the worlds biggest library inside an ann summers shop! Mike -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Roger Alumbaugh Sent: 28 March 2002 01:21 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] ORBZ shut down - ok.. Lets beat a dead horse to death one more round then snip this thead > Isn't unsolicited mail sent to a user on your system > considered... well... SPAM? How do you differentiate between > the good SPAM and the bad SPAM? Believe it or not.. We have about 10% of users opt to have no spam filter in place.. Some of these people just like it.. Go figure. We use the pro version and let users select their level of spam filtering, I don't really care whether they want spam or not.. It is their choice. I provide a mail transport service for my users.. That is what I am paid to provide. I let them decide what they wish to receive and what spam tests they wish to be performed. > >I guess the way I look at it is if the spammer pays for his own mail > >and > bandwidth to deliver the goods I can't fault him. > The problem is that I'm paying for some of this without the > ability to deny the charges! Even if the SPAMmer uses his own > server with a paid internet connection, I'm still paying for > part of his delivery! Thats why Fax SPAMming is illegal in > many states. The lawmakers just haven't yet realized the > cost of receiving email. Maybe you serve a different market. If I were serving a corporate mail envirnoment I wouldn't particularly want any incoming non-business mail.. But as a provider to the general public it isn't my call. Most of the junk I see getting tagged as spam on our system is from stupid things that users actually opt in for (whether they know it or not at the time). Be glad to debate more off list but is getting a little lenthy for the entire list to have to wade through. ;) Please visit http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html to be removed from this list. An Archive of this list is available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Please visit the Knowledge Base for answers to frequently asked questions: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ Please visit http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html to be removed from this list. An Archive of this list is available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Please visit the Knowledge Base for answers to frequently asked questions: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Please visit http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html to be removed from this list. An Archive of this list is available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Please visit the Knowledge Base for answers to frequently asked questions: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/
