Maybe they won't, we'll see. We need to start fighting back. The spammers really have no risk as it stands now. It's time to start doing everything we can to make'em hurt. Filters and blocking aren't going to cut it anymore and I for one am tired of the cat and mouse game with these scumbags.
David Daniels System Administrator Starfish Internet Service [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Pepper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Of Interest: SUE A SPAMMER TODAY > since a spammer has no ethics and lives beyond the edge of the law, why > would they care about a credit report? ;-) > > Tom > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mailadmin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 2:52 PM > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Of Interest: SUE A SPAMMER TODAY > > > > I'm glad you sent this. I'm discussing this very thing with my attorney > > right now. He says that if I get a judgement in North Carolina on an out > of > > state spammer I may not get paid but that's ok because I can get it put on > > the spammers credit report. Anyone with half a brain values their credit > > report more than a 2500.00 judgement. Enough judgements and we'll put most > > of the small time spammers out of business. > > > > David Daniels > > System Administrator > > Starfish Internet Service > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Kami Razvan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 1:42 PM > > Subject: [IMail Forum] Of Interest: SUE A SPAMMER TODAY > > > > > > > Hi; > > > I receive this newsletter and thought the topic could be of interest to > > > the folks here in case they don't see this. > > > > > > It makes sense! Doesn't it? > > > > > > Regards, > > > Kami > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 12:20 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: BRIAN LIVINGSTON: "Window Manager" from InfoWorld.com, Monday, > > > April 22, 2002 > > > > > > > > > ======================================================== > > > BRIAN LIVINGSTON: "Window Manager" InfoWorld.com > > > ======================================================== > > > > > > Monday, April 22, 2002 > > > > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > > > > > SUE A SPAMMER TODAY > > > > > > Posted April 19, 2002 01:01 PM Pacific Time > > > > > > > > > I WROTE LAST week that Windows users can stop spam. > > > Like uninvited faxes, unsolicited commercial e-mail > > > should be against federal law because the recipients > > > pay for spam through higher monthly fees at ISPs, and > > > in many other ways. > > > > > > Although Austria, Denmark, Finland, Italy, and Germany > > > have legislatively canned spam, Congress hasn't. > > > That's why I'm so pleased to see that ordinary people > > > are beating spammers by using a potent tool -- state laws. > > > > > > This was brought home recently when I learned that my > > > research director, Ben Livingston, had collected > > > substantial fines from spammers and other human crud. > > > (Despite the same last name, Ben and I are unrelated.) > > > > > > Ben has so far received more than $2,500 on behalf of a > > > small ISP for which he works part time. He sues > > > spammers, junk faxers, and illegal automated > > > telemarketers in small claims court, which is easy to > > > do without a lawyer. His efforts have also reaped > > > $5,600 still in the collection process. > > > > > > One of his latest prizes is a settlement from Richard > > > Scott of the Cyberdata group. According to Ben, this > > > group sends out spam saying, "You can have a profit of > > > over $2 million," hyping a CD that supposedly has 200 > > > million e-mail addresses. > > > > > > Ben has proudly scanned the payment and posted it to > > > his Web site at > > > www.smallclaim.info/cyberdata/check.gif. Work your way > > > back from that address to Ben's home page, where > > > you'll find several pages of inspiring victories. It > > > also links to his zine that describes federal and > > > state laws against intrusive marketing and explains > > > how you can become "a small claims warrior." > > > > > > Although spam isn't yet a federal offense, the laws of California and > > > Washington state are particularly strong. You can research the laws of > > > your state at http://www.spamlaws.com/state . As Ben's zine says, "Some > > > may fear legalese, but not the warrior." > > > > > > Washington law allows people to collect $500 to $1,000 > > > for each received e-mail that uses a false address or > > > a third party's domain name (such as Hotmail.com) > > > without authorization, as most spam does. > > > > > > Many sites, such as Spamcop.net, help you analyze the > > > source of spam. But Ben simply sues the person at > > > whatever address or phone is advertised in the > > > message. (Or he feigns interest in the product until > > > he receives an address or phone.) > > > > > > Spammers may ignore small claims courts, so Ben hands > > > his verdicts to collection agencies. They can insert > > > "defaulted on court judgment" into a spammer's > > > permanent credit record. This makes loans hard to get, > > > so many spammers offer a cash settlement even before a > > > case goes to court. > > > > > > I'm not a litigious person. But spam is quadrupling > > > every year and will drown the Internet. > > > > > > So I'm looking for 1,000 Windows users to do what Ben's > > > doing. That should make spam unpalatable. > > > > > > Do yourself and humanity a favor. > > > > > > Go get 'em. > > > > > > Send tips to [EMAIL PROTECTED] He regrets that > > > he cannot answer individual questions. > > > Go to http://www.iwsubscribe.com/newsletters to get his Window Manager > > > column and E-Business Secrets e-zine free via e-mail. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please visit http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > > > to be removed from this list. > > > > > > An Archive of this list is available at: > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > > > > > > Please visit the Knowledge Base for answers to frequently asked > > > questions: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ > > > > > > > > > Please visit http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > > to be removed from this list. > > > > An Archive of this list is available at: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > > > > Please visit the Knowledge Base for answers to frequently asked > > questions: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ > > > > > Please visit http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > to be removed from this list. > > An Archive of this list is available at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > > Please visit the Knowledge Base for answers to frequently asked > questions: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ > Please visit http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html to be removed from this list. 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