Bruce,

I'm confused!?!

Where is the IP 209.164.21.36, when I the headers posted to the list your
email
is coming from a different IP. "206.111.237.66" shown from:

---
Received: from bgctwld ([206.111.237.66])
        by wellington.cnchost.com
---

cnchost.com is the old concentric, which is now XO Communications and:

206.111.237.66 is registered at whois.arin.net:
XO Communications (NET-XOXO-BLK-1)
   1400 Parkmoor Avenue
   San Jose, CA 95126-3429
   US

and your MX record shows:
tonerworld.com.
    10, mail.tonerworld.com.
mail.tonerworld.com. is
    206.111.237.67

and your www host is 209.164.22.177 which is at:
Delta Internet Services (NETBLK-DELTANET-BLK-1)
   1400 Parkmoor Avenue
   San Jose, CA 95126-3429
   US

So, it looks like it's your webhosting provider block is backlisted as
opposed
to your upstream Internet providor where your mailserver is located. But
still
your www host is not 209.164.21.36 but 209.164.22.177.

Looks like XO maybe boughtout/merged/aquired Deltanet at one point.

Hope this helps.

-Kevin




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 8:29 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] spammer impersonating my users?



> > Could be that their DNS Servers are messed up.. seen a lot of that going
on
> > lately..
>
>Rick, same thing I'm thinking. We just started using Active Directory
>and since it's IP-based, plus includes it's own DNS server, I could see how
>these problems could grow over time.

It's not a DNS issue.  Your mailserver's IP address is listed in a spam
database.  It's in there, that's all.  No DNS problems can cause
that.  SPEWS listed your IP.

 > I haven't reached my sales rep today (never can when I ain't
 > buying!), but they have 2 OC-12's at the Irvine, California datacenter,
so I
 > hope they're not buying bandwidth from Deltanet. But I must confess to
not
 > knowing much about peering, etc.

Deltanet *owns* the IP address you are using.  It actually doesn't matter
how much or how little of their bandwidth XO buys from Deltanet; your IP
address belongs to Deltanet.  Think of it this way:  Deltanet has the power
to change your IP address without you knowing, whereas XO can't do that
(without Deltanet's permission).

                                                    -Scott
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