One other quick suggestion: Check the ISP that the dynamic IP clients are
using.  I'm pretty sure that AOL and Verizon dial-up block port 25 in some
cases.  You can probably do a quick test by making Imail an open relay
(BREIFLY!) and see if any of these clients can send mail then, if not, then
it's the ISP that they are using.

Marc

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Randy Armbrecht
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 11:51 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] smtp authentication not working

Don,

Thank you for your reply - the problem that we are having is that noone on
Outlook or OE or Netscape can send mail by authenticating SMTP - they all
have "My outgoing server requires authentication"  and the are chosen "use
same settings as for incoming mail"

(I have OE5.50 and I cannot get smtp authentication to work when testing at
all)

we have "relay for addresses" selected, and have listed those static IP's
for our customer base; those user's are fine.....it's the dynamic IP users
that are having problems......


Randy Armbrecht
Global Web Solutions(r), Inc.
804-346-5300 x102
877-800-GLOBAL (4562) x102
http://globalweb.net
http://e-globalweb.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Weber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 11:04 AM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] smtp authentication not working


> it is the client you are using that has to be compatible, I tried to use
one
> of the authentication methods myself that outlook does not support, my
> settings for IMail are, SMTP>relay mail for addresses, with my domain
listed
> and other domains that are legit, however if you are using outlook, you
can
> have outlook supply the password, this makes IMail consider the session as
> local, go to the tools menu, then accounts>>properties for the mail
account>
> click on the servers tab then select the box that says, my server requires
> authentication, then apply and OK, and you can send mail to external
> addresses, this will at least make it where those that do not supply an
> account password cant send mail out thru your server, but it wont stop
> anyone from sending to accounts ON your server, you'll need and anti-spam
> gateway to help with that kind of junk, like IMGate or Declude
>
> Don
>
>
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Randy
Armbrecht
> > >Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 6:13 AM
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: [IMail Forum] smtp authentication not working
> > >Importance: High
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >we were previously setup for "relay for users" until we were
> > >taken advantage
> > >of 2 weeks ago by an outside entity that spoofed a number of our
customer
> > >addresses; so this morning at 2a.m., we locked down smtp to "relay for
> > >adresses" and have all our company wide IP's and cust's static
> > >IP's listed
> > >here;
> > >
> > >however, those users that need to use SMTP authentication are not able
to
> > >send out; getting the "550 not local host" error message.  I
> > >have been able
> > >to duplicate this same error by logging into a standard 56k
> > >account we keep
> > >at a competitor for testing purposes.
> > >
> > >We are running 7.06 with access external database.  KB says that
> > >SMTP auth
> > >is supported with v7.0+ and that the primary domain needs to be an
IMail
> > >database setup.  This we have - primary domain is imail.globalweb.net
set
> > >for IMail database and with the IP address assigned to server - all
other
> > >domains are set as virtual domains)
> > >
> > >Any help or thoughts will be greatly appreciated!
> > >
> > >
> > >Randy Armbrecht
> > >Global Web Solutions(r), Inc.
> > >804-346-5300 x102
> > >877-800-GLOBAL (4562) x102
> > >http://globalweb.net
> > >http://e-globalweb.net
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Len Conrad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 7:24 AM
> > >Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] dictionary attacks
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> >Scott's site that shows the latest SPAMs they have received.  These
> > >> >sites all have an email that is only used to receive SPAM.  So why
not
> > >> >automatically blacklist and add the email or IP added anytime that
> > >> >e-Mail address receives SPAM.
> > >> >
> > >> >I know we have over 10 of these addresses of former employees and
long
> > >> >gone distribution lists that all have ended up in some list.
> > >If only we
> > >> >could dynamically block for 1 hour or 2 any address or IP that sends
> > >> >these addresses an email we will be set.
> > >>
> > >> My recent enhancements to IMGate include harvesting many kinds of
> > >> information from the maillog file.   My scripts does just as
> > >you say, when
> > >> after Imail bounces a certain number of messages in a day or
> > >over a month,
> > >> to one account, then that dead account is added to IMgate so IMGate
can
> > >> reject the mail without having to waste resources sending it Imail.
> > >>
> > >> Then as sites continue to send mail to dead accounts,
> > >functioning now as
> > >> "honey pots", we know that the msgs are spam and that the spammers
are
> > >> probably succeeding it hitting good acounts, so the scripts
> > >automatically
> > >> harvest the ip's sending to dead accounts, and also the "mail from:".
> > >This
> > >> is, just one, very effective way of hardening IMGate defenses for the
> > >> specific IMGate site, based on abuse specific to that site.
> > >>
> > >> Len
> > >>
> > >>
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