> I claim "no false positives", without absurdity, because what you and Scott > refuse to take on board is that declaring a spam spewing network > illegitimate as an MX policy TERMINATES ALL TESTING for SPAM. With no > testing, there can be no "false positives" in any sense of that phrase, > period, putting it in Scotts beloved "statistical" terms.
I really should just sit on my hands here and let this blow over. But I'm a glutton for punishment today. It absolutely amazes me that folks can get away with blocking legitmate mail. Maybe this is the difference between a mail server within a company and my situation which is as an ISP. If I block even one legitimate email from a client I get ripped a new one. Maybe I've spoiled my clients with virus protection, and they want spam filtering to be just as accurate. While I think perhaps Scott needs to take some yoga classes ;-), I really do think his point is worthwhile. All of us on the list want to have the best performing system for our own needs. Not everyone has the same needs, so we will not all arrive at the same solutions. However, I do want to be able to compare what other people are doing to what I am doing. Nearly every day I learn something on this list that I can do to make my service better, and that is fantastic. Yet, in order for me to understand what 3rd party products can offer my business, we need to all use the same terminology. It is beyond me how a message that is sent in the direction of my server that my clients would like to receive but don't because of my setup is not called a False Positive. Ok, I understand that it didn't fail a traditional test (although you could argue that surviving an MX policy is a test in and of itself). If we can't agree that it is a False Positve, let's come up with a new term. Len, how about we call these messages "Unreceived legitimate email". Does that make it easier somehow? For me, the bottom line is that you can't talk to me about spam filtering without talking about "Unreceived legitimate email". I wish I was in a position to be more aggressive, but for my company it would be bad business. If other businesses can do it, that is great for them. Paul Navarre To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/
