He doesn't need to think at all travis...he's got mucho experiencio....lol:)
Jim W. Bruner Network Admin. CDB Software, Inc. 11200 Richmond Ave. Suite #500 Houston, Texas 77082 281.920.3305 www.cdbsoftware.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Rabe Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 11:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Any positive experience with v8.1? WOW! Note-to-self: According to ChicagoNetTech Inc, sneaker-net is a viable solution for people who need e-mail quicker then three hours. I must say I am really surprised that someone with that much experience looks at e-mail the way you do. You might want to reconsider your view or you may find yourself left behind the technology tidal wave. However, I realize you may not get this for up to 3-hours so I will put it in the post and send it via Pony Express. Travis > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bruce Barnes > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 10:18 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Any positive experience with v8.1? > > > Disagree all you like, but my statement is based on more than 15 years of > experience with e-mail servers and 35 years of experience with > computers and > networking in general. > > Pushing something, in this case e-mail, to do something it's not > designed to > do, ie: lock a file while a remote client (not on the same machine) checks > for e-mail and, if idap is enabled, parses all of the files and mailbox > trees, will not behave well in any environment if it is done too > frequently. > > At some point both the hardware and software have to be able to > have time to > do their associated tasks. > > Again, disagree with me all you want, but e-mail is NOT instant messaging. > Instant messaging is a totally different application that routes > a burst of > data to a specific IP address without having to send it to a file > that holds > it to be checked and responded to. > > If someone wants e-mail, then they need to treat it like e-mail. If they > want instant messaging, then get instant messaging, but don't > whine and cry > about something not working in the manner in which they perceive it should > work. > > There are standards for everything and somewhere a whole generation of > computer crybabies who demand their own way decided to throw them out the > window. I don't tolerate that kind of attitude or behavior, and I won't > tolerate my employees, customers or clients telling me how a > product that is > supposed to do one thing should be pushed to do something else. If they > abuse my staff, my network, my services or me, they get shut off and are > free to go elsewhere. > > Bruce Barnes > ChicagoNetTech Inc > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of RMilner > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 11:59 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Any positive experience with v8.1? > > > I respectfully disagree. Even the IMail Webmail in 8.1 says it autochecks > for new mail every 5 minutes. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bruce Barnes > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 12:44 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Any positive experience with v8.1? > > > No e-mail client should ever be checking for e-mail any more > frequently than > every TWENTY minutes. If you check for e-mail more frequently, > it can LOCK > the mail box and the queue on ANY server, IMail, Exchange, or any other > server, and substantially slow the message delivery within the server. > > E-Mail is NOT instant messaging. The standard for e-mail > delivery is still > about 3 hours - NOT instant. > > Bruce Barnes > ChicagoNetTech > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of RMilner > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 11:23 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Any positive experience with v8.1? > > > Can anyone address why it now takes anywhere from 10-25 minutes to send an > email between 2 Internal Mailboxes in IMail 8.1 when this happened fairly > instantly in 8.05? It also takes 10-20 minutes if you have > forwarding set up > in IMail Administrator between the mailboxes. This happens even > if it's the > only email in the system, so its not a load issue. > > It appears to be a queue issue. As the queue cannot be re-run any faster > than 10 minutes, it now takes a minimum of 10 minutes to send an email to > another person on the system - if that person has their mailbox > (such as to > their assistant) it takes an additional 10 minutes for the > assistant to get > it - and that is based on Outlook checking for messages just > after the queue > runs. If Outlook only runs every 2-5 minutes, then it takes upwards of 30 > minutes to send emails internally. > > This really is unacceptable. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bridges, > Samantha > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 11:06 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Any positive experience with v8.1? > > > No problems here. Install was easy and quick. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Travis Rabe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 11:01 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Any positive experience with v8.1? > > > I had some troubles with the upgrade there were in part as a result of > my own doing. IN the end the HF2 fixed what I was seeing. Overall, I > am very pleased with 8.1 > > > Travis > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bud Durland > > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 7:22 AM > > To: iMail Forum > > Subject: [IMail Forum] Any positive experience with v8.1? > > > > > > I'm contemplating upgrading from 8.05 to 8.1hf2 this weekend. > > > > I don't use LDAP (previous versions seemed "broken", so we use > > something > > else) > > > > I do have approximately 100 users, and all use IMAP to access their > > mail. A very few (<10) occasionally use WebMail > > > > We process approximately 1500 messages a day > > > > We use Declude Junkmail and Antivirus > > > > Has anyone have a positive experience upgrading to 8.1 in this kind of > > > environment? > > > > > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > illigitimi non carborundum > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Bud Durland, CNE Mold-Rite Plastics > > Network Administrator http://www.mrpcap.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > > List Archive: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > > Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ > > > > > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > List Archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ > > > > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ > > > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ > > > > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ > > > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/
