What are your symptoms? What's in the logs? Tripp
----- Original Message ----- From: "William Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "'R. Scott Perry'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 8:15 PM Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Any positive experience with v8.1? > Tripp and Scott, > > I seemed to have the same problem. I moved back to 8.05. > Under SMTP in my advanced delivery application under 8.05 I have: > declude.exe > not > smtp32.exe > > Since I use declude for SPAM. > > Should I try to update to 8.1 again and change this to smtp32.exe? > Do you know what happens to declude in that case? > > Do I need to make any changes in declude? > > Thanks, > > -Bill > > > > > > William E. Daniels > Director of Technology > Episcopal Academy > 376 N. Latches Lane > Merion Station, PA 19066-1797 > 610-617-2225 (W) 610-656-5505 (cell) > [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ea1785.org > www.ea1785.org/htm/Units/Upper/computer/daniels/daniels.htm > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RMilner > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 6:22 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Any positive experience with v8.1? > > yes, thats what it is...using the uninstall procedures listed in advance > spam check. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tripp Allen > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 5:54 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Any positive experience with v8.1? > > > Okay, but the symptoms you describe sound like SMTPD is calling an external > process which isn't there (or the process isn't calling smtp32 when it's > done). If you had a process in place and removed it but did not change the > SENDNAME back, this is exactly what would happen. What is in iadmin - > localhost - services - smtp - advanced - Delivery Application? If you don't > have an external plug in it should contain your path to the IMail directory > \ smtp32.exe like c:\imail\smtp32.exe. > > Tripp > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "RMilner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 5:47 PM > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Any positive experience with v8.1? > > > > This was a straight upgrade over a ghost of the existing 8.05 setup. > > > > The only thing to change not done by 8.1x or the HF was I took out the > > advance spam check that Heiko Herrmann made available to the list a > > week > or > > so prior to 8.10 being released as I wanted to see what 8.1x would do > > in terms of spam control without additional add ins. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tripp Allen > > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 5:27 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Any positive experience with v8.1? > > > > > > It sounds like something is not configured correctly. This sounds > > like smtpd is getting the message but is not telling the queue manager > > about > it. > > Do you have some type of plug in between STMPD and the queue manager? > > What's in your SENDNAME? > > > > Tripp > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "RMilner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 5:07 PM > > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Any positive experience with v8.1? > > > > > > > This is a simple Pop 3 system - no IMAP or LDAP. Less than 100 > mailboxes. > > > Less than 300 emails a day. > > > > > > The logs clearly show that the issue is the queue running every 10 > minutes > > > in 8.1. This WAS NOT an issue in 8.0x > > > > > > If an assistant books a car with Hertz at 12:01 online and the > > confirmation > > > is sent back to her boss at 12:02, you can see it in the system at > 12:02, > > > but it waits until the queue runs at 12:11 to deliver it to the > Manager's > > > email box. At that point a copy is forwarded to the Assistant from > > > the Manager's box so it has to wait until the next time the queue > > > runs, at > > 12:21 > > > and it arrives in her Mailbox at 12:21. However, if she checks for > > > mail every 5 minutes, the actual message doesn't appear until 12:25 > > > - a 23 > > minute > > > delay. > > > > > > This took place in a matter of seconds with version 8.0x. > > > > > > Thus 8.1 has made it appear that we have gone back lightyears in > > > mail processing. > > > > > > To make it worse, the time stamp is at 12:02 on the email when the > server > > > received it. Thus the people know its been in limbo for 23 minutes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis > > > Rabe > > > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 12:26 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Any positive experience with v8.1? > > > > > > Are you using IMAP? This is how I had discovered the fix that HF2 > fixed. > > > The same thing was happening to me. If you look at the logs does it > show > > an > > > error trying to deliver the message because the main.mbx file is locked? > > If > > > so, install HF2. If you laready have....couldn't tell ya other than > look > > at > > > the logs for your answer. > > > > > > Travis > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of RMilner > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 9:23 AM > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Any positive experience with v8.1? > > > > > > > > > > > > Can anyone address why it now takes anywhere from 10-25 minutes to > > > > send an email between 2 Internal Mailboxes in IMail 8.1 when this > > > > happened fairly instantly in 8.05? It also takes 10-20 minutes if > > > > you have forwarding set up in IMail Administrator between the > mailboxes. > > > > This happens even if it's the only email in the system, so its not > > > > a load issue. > > > > > > > > It appears to be a queue issue. As the queue cannot be re-run any > > > > faster than 10 minutes, it now takes a minimum of 10 minutes to > > > > send an email to another person on the system - if that person has > > > > their mailbox (such as to their assistant) it takes an additional > > > > 10 minutes for the assistant to get it - and that is based on > > > > Outlook checking for messages just after the queue runs. If > > > > Outlook only runs every 2-5 minutes, then it takes upwards of 30 > > > > minutes to send emails internally. > > > > > > > > This really is unacceptable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bridges, > > > > Samantha > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 11:06 AM > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Any positive experience with v8.1? > > > > > > > > > > > > No problems here. Install was easy and quick. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Travis Rabe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 11:01 AM > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Any positive experience with v8.1? > > > > > > > > > > > > I had some troubles with the upgrade there were in part as a > > > > result of my own doing. IN the end the HF2 fixed what I was > > > > seeing. Overall, I am very pleased with 8.1 > > > > > > > > > > > > Travis > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bud > > > > > Durland > > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 7:22 AM > > > > > To: iMail Forum > > > > > Subject: [IMail Forum] Any positive experience with v8.1? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm contemplating upgrading from 8.05 to 8.1hf2 this weekend. > > > > > > > > > > I don't use LDAP (previous versions seemed "broken", so we use > > > > > something > > > > > else) > > > > > > > > > > I do have approximately 100 users, and all use IMAP to access > > > > > their mail. A very few (<10) occasionally use WebMail > > > > > > > > > > We process approximately 1500 messages a day > > > > > > > > > > We use Declude Junkmail and Antivirus > > > > > > > > > > Has anyone have a positive experience upgrading to 8.1 in this > > > > > kind of > > > > > > > > > environment? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > --- > > > > > illigitimi non carborundum > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > Bud Durland, CNE Mold-Rite Plastics > > > > > Network Administrator http://www.mrpcap.com > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: > > > > > http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > > > > > List Archive: > > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > > > > > Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > > > > List Archive: > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > > > > Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ > > > > --- > > > > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > > > > List Archive: > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > > > > Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > > > > List Archive: > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > > > > Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > > > List Archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > > > Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > > > List Archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > > > Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > > List Archive: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > > Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > > List Archive: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > > Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ > > > > > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ > > > > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus at Episcopal Academy] > > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus at Episcopal Academy] > > > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/
